There is nothing more to say, the same old is still true.

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Sujet : There is nothing more to say, the same old is still true.
De : Josjoha (at) *nospam* market.socialism.nl (Jos Boersema)
Groupes : soc.culture.jewish
Date : 16. Feb 2025, 14:17:53
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link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kITZOnUWA-Y
title: Yemot Hamashiach (16) - Does Mashiach Know he is Mashiach? -
       Rav Shlomo Katz
source: Shlomo Katz
  
    Reply ...

You betrayed the Torah a long time ago, with your overthrow of the
Jubilee, your Rambam Shemita 10:8, your Hillel the elder with his prozbul,
your phony Shabbos which you cut in half by pretending the day ends in
the early evening, and then you tie boxes to your head. There is nothing
more to say. The next round of punishment will be 7 times worse. Last
time was the Nazis. If you still go on with Rabbinical Judaism (which
opposes the Torah) after the next round of punishment, then you will
not survive as something that can be called a Nation anymore. I'm not
saying that, the Torah is saying that (punishment section). So the
answer to the posed questions is: you are asleep, and regarding the
'moshiach': it doesn't matter what the answer to that question is (in
my opinion). Since you are asleep (refusing to see the obvious, flat out
going on with your betrayal, just like Roman idolators and their absurd
beliefs), it doesn't matter if moshiach is awake or not anymore.

This refusal to see the obvious is probably rooted in several vices,
among which may be: pride, money, cowardice, hard neck (obstinacy for the
sake of obstinacy), and for some it is likely even an life of organized
crime (such as for the Rothshild crime family, and others). Basically,
you don't care. It doesn't concern you. Someone else will figure it
out. You're doing your job, you think. Right ? This is how the Rabbis
behave, and they will become guilty of creating the second holocaust
because of it. After that, they probably still will have to be overthrown,
because it doesn't look like anything will ever stop them from their
opposition to Moshe Rabbeinu and the great rebellion against the Torah
which they have organized and are keeping alive.

There is no way you can be Redeemed under Rabbinical law. It just doesn't
work. Your phony economy doesn't work, no matter how good you do, you are
not an example to the Nations this way, with your phony laws regarding
land and money. You Israel don't even have a system of Government
which can be taken serious, but you saved yourself by listening to your
prophets. You are not like the Swiss or some Native Indians in America,
who managed to listen to each other. You don't listen to each other,
you just yell through each other and then you part ways. The only
time you agree is when you read your words in the Minyan, because you
don't put your own opinions into it for once. So this is your score:
you don't have an economy because Rabbinical Judaism has ruined it,
you don't have a Government system worth mentioning or knowing about,
because you stopped listening to your prophets. No Government system
worth having (Kingship is not worthwhile, even the Torah says that),
no economy either thanks to the Rabbis. What does Israel still have to
offer then ? Family values ? It is not enough.

You cannot be Redeemed, but you can be shocked to the core by the second
holocaust, and given another chance afterwards to rethink all your long
lasting betrayals. That's it, there is nothing more to say. It is shocking
to see how obstinate Israel is, how dishonest the Rabbis are. You are such
a dishonest people, I cannot even believe I write this to an adult and
they just flat out are going to ignore it and not even look up the lies of
Rambam and Hillel, or if they do they will just stick to these lies. It
is absolutely ... incomprehensible and shameful. These are adults, they
have children, and they dare behave this way, they dare to behave like
a 3 year old child with the Torah and the future of their people and
even humanity at large. How dare you create this mess, Rabbis of Israel,
how dare you play with the lives of your people and your own life.

I am wrong, you are going to be the first Rabbi who is honest about
the torah ? Excellent, I'm sorry and you may have just started the
Redemption. The way I see it though, is that all these Jewish people and
including a large majority of the most Orthodox (who are not Orthodox,
they are reformers), who all think so strongly that there will be
'moshiach' and 'Redemption' for them soon ... it isn't even that there
won't be a Redemption, but they won't even survive. This is also thanks
to the Rabbis and also these Rebbes of yours, who should have known
better and stopped the lying already thousands of years ago. Nobody
is so silly that they don't comprehend the prozbul is a lie, or how
Rambam reads the Torah about Jubilee isn't a lie. Everyone knows these
are lies. You have to be an official nutcase IQ 85 to not understand
it. Therefore I don't call it mistakes, these are not mistakes anymore,
this is fraud and lying what Hillel and Rambam are doing. The shame
which is attached to these lies is drenched in the blood of thousands
and thousands of people, and soon it may even become Billions of people.

What you are waiting for is not 'moshiach' but your own honesty. You
say "the world needs Redemption", but that isn't necessarily true. The
people needs to start being honest and care, and then they would Redeem
themselves. If they do _not_ want to do that (and they do not, including
the Rabbis), then the world doesn't need Redemption, because it _cannot be
Redeemed_ it is a technical impossibility (unless you change the laws of
nature as well, and humans are to be pets). Then the world doesn't need
Redemption, the world needs *destruction.* It needs to be destroyed,
to prevent things to happen which are even worse. Destruction can be
back to the Stone age, or even human extinction. You have let it come
to this. Sorry about being angry, it is upsetting how long all this has
to last and that a people like the Jewish people are this obstinate and
fraudulent and deceptive and dismissive of the obvious. It is hard to
deal with it, that this people have become such a fraud and such a lie,
and on such childishly easy topics. They threw it all away, for nothing.

  * End reply.

21:59 Video stopped there somehow, after reloading to see if the comment
appeared. The comment was deleted immediately, therefore likely by the
Google censorship system. It shows a picture of the Rabbi smiling and
giving a thumbs up, which was rather funny to see. lol

By the way, the Rabbi goes on at length about how great 'moshiach' is
supposed to be. The way I see it: Adam & Eve became criminals, they
decided to loot from the tree. Then they where ashamed, so the Creator
didn't destroy them, but hoped they would use that shame to return to
being real people again, normal people who can live together with a
minimum of normal behavior. If you see someone having a nice watch, do
you beat them to the ground and take that watch ? Hopefully not, and
that's not a big achievement. This is I think the issue with humanity:
they sank so low and into such bad behavior, that simply being a normal
average person with a minimum of respect for what is not theirs, already
puts you above Adam & Eve, and that's not a great accomplishment but an
absolute minimum to even have any sort of hope that you can exist as a
human being on Earth.

When we see how terrible the Rabbis are acting with the Torah, to act
normal with the Torah isn't great and awesome, it is just normal and
fair, anyone can do it. From the position of hardened crime, someone who
wants to do some normal work may be perceived as some kind of super
human moral hero whom they can never match up to, but that isn't because
such a person is really so great compared to what humans should be and
can be, it is more caused by how absurd and childish the behavior of
these criminals have become over time. They then substitute that a
person who doesn't want to steal (following Hillel and Rambam is being
part of the great thieving on Earth, and worse even) is very great, but
it could be more accurate to say that they are very bad, and the person
who doesn't want to steal is just average and normal. Naturally though,
they don't want to really say or believe that about themselves, how bad
they are, because that would imply they could do better and should. It
would be a "call to action", and they don't want that. So they exalt
this supposed 'moshiach', so they can remain apathetic and put the onus
on 'moshiach' to figure it out, and this then rolls over into using the
mechanism for idolatry and apathy in the people in general, so they can
keep their positions and nothing wlil change for the better. The
idolatry leads to the mindlessness, and the mindless are easy to
control.

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Feb 25 * There is nothing more to say, the same old is still true.4Jos Boersema
16 Feb 25 `* Rabbinical blame shifting, blaming 'moshiach' ...3Jos Boersema
17 Feb 25  `* Re: Rabbinical blame shifting, blaming 'moshiach' ...2Jos Boersema
17 Feb 25   `- Re: Rabbinical blame shifting, blaming 'moshiach' ...1Jos Boersema

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