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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:11:11 GMT, International Osteoporosis Institute
Bone Density wrote:
🪂 2. Rola skrzydła (czaszy nośnej)
Skrzydła paramotorów (czyli tzw. skrzydła paralotniowe) są konstrukcjami dwuwarstwowymi – samo-inflacyjne, ale wrażliwe na destabilizację, np.:
Przy braku aktywnego pilotażu, mogą się zapadać asymetrycznie,
Wpadają w tzw. „deep stall” lub spiralę, gdy nie są odpowiednio sterowane.
Gdy Felix stracił przytomność, nie mógł korygować toru lotu – skrzydło najpewniej weszło w niekontrolowaną spiralę.
 
Takie normalne paralotnie "lecą same", wystarczy im nie przeszkadzać.
Ale te bardziej wyczynowe mogą być istotnie niestabilne.
 
A nieprzytomny pilot, przewieszony na jedną stronę, czy z opadnietymi
rękoma w uchwytach sterówek - to faktycznie groźne.
 
 
🔧 3. Czy silnik zgasł?
Możliwe, że silnik zgasł dopiero podczas spirali lub tuż przed upadkiem.
Jednak sam brak napędu nie powoduje upadku – w paramotolotniach spadochron działa niezależnie od silnika.
Kluczowy był brak sterowania skrzydłem – a nie sama awaria silnika.
 
📉 4. Czy skrzydło nie powinno zamortyzować lądowania?
 
Tak, w warunkach kontrolowanego lotu skrzydło umożliwia łagodne lądowanie (opadanie ok. 2–5 m/s).
 
tak jest - nawet bez silnika, paralotnia opada umiarkowanie, i jest to
sport dość bezpieczny.
 
Ale jeśli skrzydło straci kształt, zapadnie się częściowo lub wejdzie w spiralę – traci nośność i przestaje działać jak skrzydło.
Wtedy spadek jest szybki i gwałtowny, jak pokazują relacje świadków oraz obrażenia Felixa.
 
Owszem.
 
🧠 5. Utrata przytomności – najprawdopodobniejszy scenariusz
 
Na nagraniu jego partnerki widać poprawny start, ale świadkowie relacjonują, że w powietrzu przestał reagować.
Lokalna policja potwierdziła, że Felix był już nieprzytomny w momencie uderzenia w ziemię (a dokładnie – w basen).
 
Hm, załóżmy, że mają jakieś dowody.
 
🎥 6. Nagrania i relacje świadków
Jedyny znany film przedstawia start, nagrany przez żonę Felixa – brak materiałów z momentu wypadku.
Świadkowie opisują:
głośny huk,
 
W czasie lotu w powietrzu.
Musiałby silnik eksplodować, albo śmigło w coś uderzyć.
 
obracające się szybko skrzydło,
 
Jak się skrzydło splątało, to potem owszem - może się szybko kręcic i
szybko opadać.
 
⚙️ 8. Czy można było awaryjnie wylądować?
Tak – ale tylko jeśli pilot jest przytomny. Wtedy może:
 
Ale po co awaryjnie? Wtedy się normalnie ląduje ... choć czasem
niezbyt bezpiecznie :-)
 
Skorygować asymetrię skrzydła przesunięciem ciała,
Hamować rękoma skrzydło,
Wspomóc się silnikiem do wyjścia z przeciągnięcia.
W przypadku utraty przytomności – żadna z tych opcji nie jest możliwa. Dlatego nawet najlepiej przygotowany sprzęt nie uratuje pilota bez kontroli.
 
Podobnie w samolocie ... bez autopilota.
 
A autopilot poleci ... do końca paliwa.
 
🧠 Podsumowanie
Katastrofa Felixa Baumgartnera była najprawdopodobniej wynikiem nagłego zasłabnięcia lub zawału serca w powietrzu, co uniemożliwiło mu kontrolowanie skrzydła. Paramotolotnia, choć technicznie sprawna, wymaga aktywnego pilotażu. Utrata świadomości spowodowała destabilizację skrzydła, wejście w spiralę i tragiczny upadek do basenu.
 
Przydałby się film z wypadku, albo jakies wiarygodne zeznanie ...
paralotniarza, ze znajomością rzeczy.
 
J.
 
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