Re: What is legitimate about the ID bait and switch scam at this time?

On 18/06/2025 11:31, Martin Harran wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 18:54:14 -0500, DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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I have been reading this thread with great interest and near zero
understanding. But I enjoy that it illustrates an understanding that I
was late to appreciate. That biology is *really* messy and the stories
we are usually told are greatly simplified and 'prettied up', leaving
out the true nature of what is actually happening.

 Or maybe MarkE's designer is just a particularly messy one ;)
 

On the one hand if one is arguing for organised complexity being evidence of design then the messiness of life in general and biochemistry in particular is a problem. Life doesn't even have the appearance of design (IMHO).
On the other hand one could argue that the designer was constrained by the laws of chemistry. But an omnipotent and omniscient designer isn't so constrained, so the intelligent design advocate has a problem. They can resort to "mysterious ways" (the intelligent designer's reasons are beyond our understanding), or assert that the intelligent design can do anything it wants.
On the gripping hand, this is why intelligent design is not science. By refusing to place constraints on the designer intelligent design can explain (explain away) anything, and therefore is not subject to empirical verification/disconfirmation.
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alias Ernest Major