Sujet : Re: West Virginia creationism
De : rondean-noreply (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ron Dean)
Groupes : talk.originsDate : 26. Apr 2024, 02:31:17
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Vincent Maycock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:16:59 -0400, Ron Dean
<rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:03:03 -0400, Ron Dean
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From then, each succeeding generation the
deleterious mutations multiplied. I think possibly the proofreading and
repair, which was an elegantly and highly sophisticated design set up
for the best results, but over the vast spans of time even the P&R
mechanisms, which initially were perfect, but with the passage of time
even the P&R became less perfect due to bad mutations that slipped
passed the P&R mechanisms, consequent the P&R systems were affected. The
results we see today.
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Again, I wish you would dress my actual question - where does your
intelligent designer fit into that process?
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It seems that after the task was completed it said "It is done".
Why do you think that happened?
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Disappointment maybe. Man's inhumanity to man: wars, murders, thief, rape etc etc. is a possibility. If we were puppets on a string, perhaps this would not have happens, IOW had we been denied free agency we might still be in its good graces. I strongly suspect God turned it's back of this planet and it's inhabitants, due to it's disappointment..
left things with the capacity and ability to take care of itself.
And how did that turn out for him, given the pervasiveness of
extinction?
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I think due to gradual increasing genetic errors and increase rate of deleterious mutations each generation becomes less fit than the preceding generation, so in the passing spans of time the genes of a species become less and less incapable of reproduction or species survival. This could account for many of 99%+ of of all species that ever lived that have gone extinct. Of course the dinosaurs became extinct due to a 6 mile diameter meteor striking the Earth. Also changing weather the coming and going of ice ages; as well massive volcano eruptions accounts for extinction of many species for example in Siberia.
It
seems that the designer left the scene. Over time and the 2ND law
everything enters into downward tends, copying errors occur, things tend
to disintegrate and inevitably things move towards dissolution and
decay.
If you believe the Designer is God, perhaps you could fill us in on
what we should expect to see if that designer was responsible for
life's diversity. What should we be looking for to prove or disprove
your "hypothesis"?
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Falsify the existence of a designer(God)? I've only recently come to that conclusion. One on the strongest evidence for a God, as far as I'm concerned, is the infusion of information in this planet I'm convinced that no one absolutely _knows_ how information arose in via natural processes in a blind, purposeless, random and mindless universe. But if you deny the existence of God, then you have no other options: all that's left for you are educated guesses, hypothesis and theories, because but no knows how natural processes originated information.
Furthermore high levels of complex information comes from a mind.
I had some beautiful pine trees in my
acreage. But a patch died, collapsed and are in a process of decay. This
is typical. The same will
happen to our bodies.
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