Re: D1.1 genotype H5N1

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Sujet : Re: D1.1 genotype H5N1
De : nospam (at) *nospam* buzz.off (Bob Casanova)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 12. Feb 2025, 05:55:54
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:11:27 -0600, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>:

On 2/11/2025 10:20 AM, JTEM wrote:
  RonO wrote:
 
Obviously, it is you that was on another planet.  The US never had
lockdowns like China.  What happened was sparse and ineffective because
 
There is zero room to argue here. The lockdowns were excessive.
The cost was extreme. The benefit was nil. The whole damn thing
was a foreseeable & foreseen mistake, assuming they weren't
intentionally trying to "Reset" the economy.
 
 
 
>
What planet were you living on?  There never was a centralized plan to
control the infection in the US.  Actions like lockdowns were sporadic
and varied from state to state, and were pretty minimal when they were
implemented.  Arkansas tried, but neighboring states like Oklahoma
decided not to do it, so nothing much changed in Arkansas due to
boardering states with larger populations not doing much at all.
Testing and contact tracing were never really implemented population
wide, and states were pretty much on their own in terms of trying to get
their people tested.  Companies like mine had to implement their own
contact tracing and testing program months after it should have been
started after commercial testing became available.  Just recall how long
it was before the Biden administration gave everyone free Covid tests.
nearly a million people (probably more just were not counted) had died
by then.
>
China tested whole city populations (10s of millions in each group),
isolated infected, and cleared Covid from their country early in the
pandemic, but the virus eventually came back (my guess is that some of
it came in with frozen food processed in other countries).  No one else
did that, and the whole world, including China, is still suffering
because of that failure.
>
Just FYI, there were lockdowns in multiple jurisdictions.
Just because they weren't mandated nationally (which would
be illegal without a Federal emergency declaration) it
doesn't mean they didn't exist.

The lockdowns were indeed excessive in some venues (and
essentially ineffective; see the Swedish data for contrast)
and the costs were indeed extreme, in both personal and
economic terms.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
 the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

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