Re: Ool - out at first base?

On 19/12/2024 5:17 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 14:10:27 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
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God is eternally preexisting, nonmaterial, above and beyond time,
matter, energy, but creating and controlling these.

 If he's beyond time, on what stage or background does he do anything?

Given we exist in and bound by time, matter, energy, we are by definition not able to comprehend the stage or background of God's existence.

 

God conceived of all created things before they came into being.

   How could we test this claim?

Die.

 

God spoke and there was...spacetime, matter, energy.

 More likely those things have just always existed, the same as this
supposed god called God that you're talking about.

How did you calculate that likelihood?

 

God created the initial low entropy state of the universe.

 Could it have been the Flying Spaghetti Monster that created this low
entropy start for the universe?

You may prefer that hypothesis.

 

God designed physics, the periodic table, etc, as building blocks
capable of being fashioned into all created things.

 What about those useless high-mass elements found further on in the
periodic table?

What is your definition of useful, and why is usefulness so defined a criterion?

 

God designed all living things and spoke them into being,

 Would it be possible to catch God in the act of speaking things into
being?

Too late. "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1). Though since then he has been seen change water into wine, and raise the dead.

 

either
directly, or indirectly through innate capacity for change and adaptation.

 How does this indirect creation relate to universal common descent of
all living things?

I don't have a settled opinion on this.

 

Etc.

 Like what?

Convince me that this is not the equivalent of the Python Argument Clinic sketch.