Is Darwinism devolving?

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Sujet : Is Darwinism devolving?
De : rokimoto557 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (RonO)
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Date : 02. Jan 2025, 23:21:16
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https://evolutionnews.org/2024/12/no-2-story-of-2024-darwinists-devolve/
What is the "Darwinism" that West claims is devolving?
There was an initial rise for the ID creationist scam, but then it fell on it's face and they started running a stupid bait and switch scam on their supporters over 2 decades ago.  ID perps like Nelson started admitting that the ID science never existed, but that they were working on developing some.  If any ID science had been accomplished with respect to the Top Six, Nelson would have likely quit the ID scam.  None of the Top Six god-of-the-gaps "evidence" supports YEC.  After the bait and switch started to go down Berlinski claimed that he had never supported the ID scam, and he likely had not because all he ever did was put up the junk that had failed the scientific creationist, and had never supported Behe's IC or Dembski's junk.  These are the type of fellows that are still fellows of the ID scam unit.
Brian Miller now makes the list of prominent defenders of the ID scam. Miller is supposed to have a PhD in physics, but he should be known on TO as the ID perp that did not like the original list of the Top Six. Miller supported Sewell's modified list, but removed the Big Bang from Sewell's list.  What does it say when a physics PhD does not want the Big Bang on the list of the best evidence for ID?
The YEC scientific creationists used to use the Big Bang.  It was part of the Gish Gallop and is up at the planetarium at the AIG's creation museum, but it never was anything that the YEC wanted to deal with in an honest and straightforward manner.  It is one of the science topics along with evolution that the creationists have wanted to remove from the science standards in states like Texas, and Oklahoma.  The Kansas creationists succeeded in temporarily removing the Big Band and biological evolution from their state science standards back in 1999, but the other states never did what they wanted to do.
Were Francis Collins and Ken Miller ever Darwinists?  These two are Christians that believe in an interactive God.  They were against ID because it was just a dishonest creationist scam.  They believe that nature is God's creation.  They just understand that life has evolved on this planet for billions of years.  They do not reject their God's involvement, they just acknowledge that the ID scam is basically a scam and bad science.
Ron Okimoto

Date Sujet#  Auteur
2 Jan 25 * Is Darwinism devolving?3RonO
3 Jan 25 +- Re: Is Darwinism devolving?1Bob Casanova
3 Jan 25 `- Re: Is Darwinism devolving?1Martin Harran

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