Re: To sum up

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Sujet : Re: To sum up
De : me22over7 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (MarkE)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 15. Feb 2025, 11:11:49
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On 15/02/2025 8:19 pm, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:24:38 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
 
On 9/02/2025 8:52 pm, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 19:15:29 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 9/02/2025 12:02 am, Martin Harran wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:03:57 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 8/02/2025 9:39 pm, Martin Harran wrote:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:17:26 +0000, Martin Harran
<martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:29:54 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
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Has talk.origins run its course, with this incarnation (post-GG
meteorite impact) the last of the dinosaurs?
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And what of the Origins debate? My contention is that progressive
discoveries with the complexity and precision of life are making Mt
Improbable higher and higher [1]. ID has gained and sustained traction
because this trend is real.
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What evidence have you got that ID has gained and sustained traction?
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So, nothing to offer. Appears to be just another example of you
thinking something *should* be true just because you would like it to
be true.
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No response does not equal nothing to offer, especially in this context,
as we both well know.
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You choosing to moan about my "cheap shot", rather than demolishing my
point by offering some evidence, speaks volumes.
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Okay, I'm happy to do a reset, and accept some blame here.
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For clarification - are you now dropping your claim that ID has gained
and sustained traction?
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No, the review will be my case for ID's traction, but also highlighting
shortcomings that I'm aware of.
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I plan to address it in a separate topic. I'm snowed under with a
weekend, so it may be a day or two.
 It's now been a week since you said you would do this and you have
posted 9 messages in the last couple of days so your busy at work
excuse is wearing a bit thin. I've seen nothing to change my original
conclusion that this claim about ID gaining traction is just something
that you would *like* to be true but it isn't.
I continue the midnight sessions (budgets and board papers etc), but take a break with simple responses here.
I want to give a reflection on ID ample time and head space. Patience. But I appreciate your enthusiasm.

 
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I am interested in reviewing the state of ID. I'm somewhat ambivalent
about ID myself actually, though I think it does have merit. I'll start
a new post to give the invitation visibility (i.e. paint a target on
myself).
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Once again, a cheap shot over substantive comment, with a disregard for
logic. I don't believe you're engaging in good faith, Martin.
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