Re: To sum up

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Sujet : Re: To sum up
De : specimenNOSPAM (at) *nospam* curioustaxon.omy.net (Mark Isaak)
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Date : 23. Feb 2025, 07:19:14
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On 2/14/25 8:14 PM, MarkE wrote:
On 15/02/2025 1:53 pm, Mark Isaak wrote:
On 2/8/25 5:06 AM, MarkE wrote:
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My argument is therefore, as complexity goes up, the challenges to naturalistic OOL and evolution also increase.
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Evolution produces complexity without the least concern. Design tries to minimize it and create simplicity. As complexity goes up, the challenge to designed OOL also increases.
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 "Evolution produces complexity without the least concern."
 You're making an assertion about a fundamental contention, i.e. the capability of evolution.
 Do you realise that's what you're doing?
 Do you realise that's neither an argument nor a rebuttal?
I am thinking of the products of evolutionary algorithms. They get quite complex. And no wonder, since there is nothing inherent in the algorithms to limit complexity. On the other hand, complexity *is* limited by the algorithms of intelligent design, since the design needs to be simple enough for designers (and repairers and maintainers) to understand it.
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Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

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