The bait was almost swallowed again

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Sujet : The bait was almost swallowed again
De : rokimoto557 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (RonO)
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Date : 04. Mar 2025, 23:43:17
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https://ncse.ngo/north-dakotas-intelligent-design-bill-defeated#
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North Dakota's Senate Bill 2355 (PDF), which would have required the state superintendent of public instruction to "include intelligent design in the state science content standards for elementary, middle, and high school students," was defeated in the Senate on a 22-25 vote on February 24, 2025.
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The ID perps did not show up again to run the bait and switch.  If the Bill had passed it would have been as bad as the passage of the first West Virginia legislation naming ID as what the creationists wanted taught in their public schools.
The ID perps used to pay someone to track the creationist rube attempts to teach ID in the public schools, but I think that they did not refill the position after the bait and switch on Utah in 2017.  It had been 4 years since that position had been needed after the dual bait and switch on Louisiana and Texas in 2013 that resulted in the ID perps removing the claim that they had a scientific theory of ID to teach in the public schools from their education policy.  The ID perps likely didn't want to waste the money on refilling the position.
I do not know what is getting the rubes to try to teach the junk again, but they apparently need to refill that position in order to insure that the bait and switch goes down before any legislation is passed.  They got lucky and got a second chance with West Virginia, and the North Dakota case seems to have failed on it's own without ID perp interference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
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This story made the York newspapers, and Buckingham was telephoned by Discovery Institute staff attorney Seth Cooper, whose tasks included "communicating with legislators, school board members, teachers, parents and students" to "address the topic of ID in a scientifically and educationally responsible way" in public schools. He later stated that he made the call to "steer the Dover Board away from trying to include intelligent design in the classroom or from trying to insert creationism into its cirriculum [sic]"
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Seth Cooper screwed up in Dover.  He had the job of running the bait and switch, but it had likely become routine after having to run the bait and switch 100% of the time since Ohio in March 2002.  Cooper failed to follow up to make sure that the rubes understood that the bait and switch had gone down.  He likely did not realize that the Dover creationists were too ignorant, stupid and dishonest to understand what the situation with the ID scam had been for the previous 3 years.  This resulted in the first failure of the bait and switch, and the Dover rubes trying to teach the bogus junk in spite of what the Discovery Institute wanted them to do.
The ID perps were caught off guard in West Virginia and if the Governor had signed the legislation with ID named, the ID scam would have likely had another day in federal court.  It looks like they were also caught off guard in North Dakota, but got lucky both times.
For some weird reason it looks like the ID perps need to refill the position that was responsible for implementing the bait and switch. Relying on Luskin to do it after the fact is likely a losing proposition.  The ID perps have never retracted any of their teach ID scam propaganda (Luskin is a coauthor of the post Dover teach ID scam propaganda) but they haven't been pushing it for years.  The West Virginia creationist rubes may have woken up other dishonest creationists willing to teach the junk.
Before Texas and Louisiana in 2013 the ID perps had to be very efficient in running the bait and switch on the rubes even after ID was exposed to be a creationist scam in Dover in 2005.  Their biggest bait and switch effort likely occurred in Florida back in 2009 when 9 county school boards and the state legislators wanted to teach ID in their public schools.  Luskin led a team of ID perps sent to Florida to run the bait and switch on all the school boards and the state legislature.  Florida dropped the issue instead of bending over for the switch scam, but a state legislator had to have the bait and switch run on him again when he tried to reintroduce the teach ID scam legislation the next session. That is the type of creationist rubes that they have falling for the teach ID scam.  Even after the West Virginia legislator had the bait and switch run on her, and she removed mentioning ID from the act, she continued to claim that ID was going to be taught in the public schools after the Governor signed the switch scam legislation.  Too stupid to breath, is an apt description of ID scam supporters.
Ron Okimoto

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4 Mar 25 * The bait was almost swallowed again2RonO
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