Re: The Golden Ratio

Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 13:39:37 +0100, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):
 

Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
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On 7 Mar 2024 17:51:40 GMT, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by dgb (David)
<david@nomail.afraid.org>:
 

On 7 Mar 2024 at 17:41:02 GMT, "J. J. Lodder" <J. J. Lodder> wrote:
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dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
 

On 7 Mar 2024 at 09:38:23 GMT, "J. J. Lodder" <J. J. Lodder> wrote:
 

Kalkidas <eat@joes.pub> wrote:
 

dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> Wrote in message:r

Does this occur by accident?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rat

io

Or by design?

 
It will never be known.

 
There is nothing to know there,
 
Jan

 
The thing to know, Jan, is that it hasn't all happened by accident!

 
It hasn't happened at all.

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You are, of course, mistaken.
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Wrong. Nothing "happened"; the so-called Golden Ratio, like
all mathematical relationships which describe observed
phenomena, is a property of physical reality, no more. And,
of course, no less.

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Down to the deepest depths of the cave with you.
Go beat the chalk out of a hunderd blackboard erasers for punishment,
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OK, please explain the reason why my post was in error.

Mathematical ratios, and more generally numbers,
have nothing to do with 'reality', whatever that may be.
The fact that they can be applied to descriptions doesn't change that.

Euclidean geometry did start as an empirical science, probably.
The great discovery of the ancient Greeks
is that you can get rid of all that,
and see mathematics free from all those encumbrances
as a subject in its own right.

Jan