Re: The Golden Ratio

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:

nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) writes:
 

dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
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Does this occur by accident?
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
 Or by design?

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Mathematics doesn't occur.
It is.
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 If it didn't occur then it is, and always was. But was it so before the
beginning of the universe? or maybe the universe didn't begin, because
time and space are not fundamental properties of nature.

The universe, whatever it is, or was, or may be
is irrelevant for mathematics,

Jan

a) yes, I'm back-ish - blame Lawyer Dagget, who put temptation in my path, and directed me to an interface that I can use without going through the hassle of signing up with yet another server :o) Though I'm likely to keep a lower profile than in the past due to work b) While I'd agree personally, there have been some interesting ideas by reasonably serious people who've argued that there is a closer connection than one might think. Most high-profile arguably Eugene Wigner and his famous paper "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences" from 1960. Essentially a mathematics version of the "no miracle" argument for scientific realism.