Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.0

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Sujet : Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.0
De : jtem01 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (JTEM)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 20. Mar 2024, 22:34:01
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  G wrote:

Of course it was impossible to win Randi's prize, you had to demonstrate
psychic or paranormal powers, and no such thing exists.
Ah!  You're a scientific illiterate!  Why didn't you
just say so!
In order to "Win" the prize, in theory, you had to pass
a test.
Claimants who say that they could achieve some paranormal
feat, and Randi would test something else.
Every time.
Randi would pretend that both sides "Agreed" to the
conditions of the test, but that was never true. It was
never an "Agreement," it was an ultimatum:  "You perform
this test or walk away."
And, again, the test NEVER mapped to the claimed
paranormal abilities.
But even if you complied with the conditions imposed
upon you, they never had to and never would pay you the
money. The law simply was never going to force them to.
In one example where I know for a fact that someone
passed a test, Randi gave out some "Code" and asked
people to tell him what it meant. It turned out to be
the Library of Congress number for a book of his, I
believe, and the people who identified it never
collected a dime.
If you were scientifically literate, you might (and I
did say "Might") be able to deconstruct a claim, come
up with an accurate test. Randi certainly could, but
never once did.
Partly because he himself was a performer, he did
magic tricks. He knew how, what was involved. So he
wanted to avoid a situation where someone who designed
and practiced a trick got to perform it. He wanted to
take people out of their comfort zone. But he never
did that in a scientifically valid way.
Again:  Deconstruct the problem. What are you denying?
What are you doubting? Be as specific as you can. How
do you test THAT specific point?
Randi never did that.
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Mar 24 * THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.062Ron Dean
19 Mar 24 +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.035Richmond
19 Mar 24 i+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.032erik simpson
19 Mar 24 ii+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.08Richmond
19 Mar 24 iii+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01erik simpson
19 Mar 24 iii+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.05Ernest Major
19 Mar 24 iiii+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Richmond
19 Mar 24 iiii+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.02John Harshman
19 Mar 24 iiiii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ernest Major
20 Mar 24 iiii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01jillery
20 Mar 24 iii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01RonO
20 Mar 24 ii+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.013Ron Dean
20 Mar 24 iii`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.012erik simpson
20 Mar 24 iii +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.06Ernest Major
20 Mar 24 iii i+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.02Athel Cornish-Bowden
20 Mar 24 iii ii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ernest Major
20 Mar 24 iii i+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Pro Plyd
20 Mar 24 iii i+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01William Hyde
21 Mar 24 iii i`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Burkhard
20 Mar 24 iii +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.04Athel Cornish-Bowden
20 Mar 24 iii i`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.03erik simpson
20 Mar 24 iii i +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Bob Casanova
20 Mar 24 iii i `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Athel Cornish-Bowden
20 Mar 24 iii `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ron Dean
20 Mar 24 ii`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.010JTEM
20 Mar 24 ii `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.09G
20 Mar 24 ii  +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.07Richmond
20 Mar 24 ii  i+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.03Bob Casanova
20 Mar 24 ii  ii+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01JTEM
22 Mar 24 ii  ii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Bob Casanova
20 Mar 24 ii  i`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.03G
20 Mar 24 ii  i +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Richmond
20 Mar 24 ii  i `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01JTEM
20 Mar 24 ii  `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01JTEM
20 Mar 24 i+- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ron Dean
20 Mar 24 i`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Pro Plyd
19 Mar 24 +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.024John Harshman
19 Mar 24 i+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.02Athel Cornish-Bowden
19 Mar 24 ii`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01erik simpson
19 Mar 24 i`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.021Ernest Major
19 Mar 24 i +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.010Richmond
19 Mar 24 i i`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.09DB Cates
19 Mar 24 i i `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.08Richmond
20 Mar 24 i i  `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.07Ron Dean
20 Mar 24 i i   +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ernest Major
20 Mar 24 i i   +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Richmond
20 Mar 24 i i   `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.04Richmond
20 Mar 24 i i    `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.03Athel Cornish-Bowden
20 Mar 24 i i     +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Bob Casanova
21 Mar 24 i i     `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01jillery
19 Mar 24 i +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.02DB Cates
20 Mar 24 i i`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ron Dean
19 Mar 24 i +* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.07John Harshman
19 Mar 24 i i+* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.05DB Cates
19 Mar 24 i ii`* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.04Richmond
19 Mar 24 i ii +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ernest Major
20 Mar 24 i ii `* Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.02John Harshman
20 Mar 24 i ii  `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Burkhard
20 Mar 24 i i`- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Pro Plyd
20 Mar 24 i `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Ron Dean
20 Mar 24 +- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01jillery
20 Mar 24 `- Re: THE $10 MILLION PRIZE FOR PROOF EVOLUTION 2.01Pro Plyd

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