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De : specimenNOSPAM (at) *nospam* curioustaxon.omy.net (Mark Isaak)
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Date : 26. Mar 2024, 15:49:18
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On 3/25/24 1:13 PM, Richmond wrote:
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> writes:
 
On 11/03/2024 17:14, Richmond wrote:
Ernest Major <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> writes:
[Origin of "The Matrix"]
I interpreted wiktionary as saying the sense 11 was a new
sense inspired by the film - so clearly not the meaning that inspired
the choice of the title for the film.
Maybe, but it cites 1984, William Gibson, Neuromancer, for sense 11,
so
such a sense must have existed before 1999.
>
It may have been mentioned, possibly by me,
that _Doctor Who_ story "The Deadly Assassin"
in 1976 presented "The Matrix", a computer
which contains memories of the Doctor's people,
"Time Lords".  It's experienced as a rather
dangerous "virtual reality".
>
William Gibson used "matrix" for - what being
inside the internet looks like, basically.
A space in which most online resources have a
visual representation, and you fly around
(virtually) like Superman to get to the data
that you want to deal with.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer>
mentions that Gibson's short story
"Burning Chrome" used the term in 1982.
"Burning" is story slang for hacking, and Chrome
is a person in the story whose money, not
personality, is under attack.
 Another example of Gnostic ideas resurfacing in popular culture is
'Forbidden Planet'. The surface of the planet has a small settlement
with only two people, some animals, and a robot. This surface settlement
represents consciousness. But hidden beneath it is something vast, and
from which the powers of creation come (the unconscious). And demons
which lurk there are projected onto the outside world, the planet
surface outside the settlement.
 If the settlement corresponds to the island in The Tempest, then the
vast space under the planet surface represents the ocean around the
island. Water is the symbol of the unconscious in mythology.
 Why is it necessary to have mythology to understand things? Because
mythology points to things which cannot be described in words. All words
have opposites and so cause division. This is shown by this newsgroup
which is doomed to polarised arguments for all eternity.
Nitpick: Not all words have opposites; probably most do not. (E.g., what is the opposite of "broccoli"?, of "modem"?, of "scissors"?) What words do, which I think supports your point at least as well, is corral ideas into discrete categories.
--
Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

Date Sujet#  Auteur
11 Mar 24 * Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.29Richmond
11 Mar 24 `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.28Ernest Major
11 Mar 24  `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.27Richmond
11 Mar 24   `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.26Ernest Major
11 Mar 24    `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.25Richmond
11 Mar 24     +* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.19*Hemidactylus*
11 Mar 24     i+* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.14Richmond
12 Mar 24     ii`* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.13*Hemidactylus*
12 Mar 24     ii `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.12Richmond
12 Mar 24     ii  `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.11*Hemidactylus*
12 Mar 24     ii   `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.10Richmond
12 Mar 24     ii    +* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.4*Hemidactylus*
12 Mar 24     ii    i`* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.3Richmond
12 Mar 24     ii    i +- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1*Hemidactylus*
12 Mar 24     ii    i `- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1Athel Cornish-Bowden
12 Mar 24     ii    `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.5Mark Isaak
12 Mar 24     ii     `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.4Richmond
13 Mar 24     ii      `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.3*Hemidactylus*
13 Mar 24     ii       `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.2Richmond
14 Mar 24     ii        `- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1Mark Isaak
12 Mar 24     i`* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.4jillery
12 Mar 24     i `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.3*Hemidactylus*
13 Mar 24     i  `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.2jillery
13 Mar 24     i   `- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1*Hemidactylus*
25 Mar 24     `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.5Robert Carnegie
25 Mar 24      `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.4Richmond
26 Mar 24       +- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1Bob Casanova
26 Mar 24       `* Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.2Mark Isaak
26 Mar 24        `- Re: Belief - I'd like to share this item with you.1Richmond

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