Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?

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Sujet : Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?
De : b.schafer (at) *nospam* ed.ac.uk (Burkhard)
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Date : 27. Mar 2024, 17:25:35
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Ron Dean wrote:

"A new wave of scientists argues that mainstream evolutionary theory needs an urgent overhaul. Their opponents have dismissed them as misguided careerists – and the conflict may determine the future of biology....Strange as it sounds, scientists still do not know the answers to some of the most basic questions about how life on Earth evolved. Take eyes, for instance. Where do they come from, exactly? The usual explanation of how we got these stupendously complex organs rests.

"https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/jun/28/do-we-need-a-new-theory-of-evolution
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DOES EVOLUTION THEORY NEED A RETHINK?

https://www.nature.com/articles/514161a
I'd say your source gives a very good and balanced answer: No. And not
because there is anything wrong with the ideas that these "dissenters"
have, but because none of this is massively new. Most of their ideas
looked extremely familiar to me from high school biology, even though the vocabulary is new, and that is almost 40 years old. All successful
theories change and adapt over time - they too evolve - and just as with
species, it is not always straightforward to say if speciation has
occurred, or if it is merely  a new variant of something familiar.
Ultimately not a very interesting question, more a semantic convention that is of use mainly for historians of science.  As the paper argues, one could also ask if neutral evolution and the recognition of drift already lead to something that should get its own name. As far as
 I can see, all the things the "new" synthesis would add are already done. Maybe not as much as some of its advocates would like, but that's merely an issue of emphasis and focus. And yes, it would be nice if we could for some of them include them in the rigorous formal
treatment that we already have for other aspects of the theory, but
the resulting complexity may be just too much to handle with current computational tools. Mathematical models always idealise
and simplify, in all sciences ("idea gas" etc), that's just life

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 Mar 24 * IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?27Ron Dean
26 Mar 24 +* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?7John Harshman
26 Mar 24 i`* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?6Ron Dean
26 Mar 24 i `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?5John Harshman
26 Mar 24 i  +* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?3Pro Plyd
26 Mar 24 i  i+- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Ron Dean
27 Mar 24 i  i`- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1RonO
27 Mar 24 i  `- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Ron Dean
27 Mar 24 +* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?2*Hemidactylus*
27 Mar 24 i`- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Ron Dean
27 Mar 24 +* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?6jillery
27 Mar 24 i`* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?5FromTheRafters
27 Mar 24 i `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?4John Harshman
29 Mar 24 i  `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?3jillery
29 Mar 24 i   `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?2John Harshman
30 Mar 24 i    `- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1jillery
27 Mar 24 +- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1RonO
27 Mar 24 `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?10Burkhard
27 Mar 24  `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?9John Harshman
27 Mar 24   `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?8Burkhard
28 Mar 24    `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?7John Harshman
28 Mar 24     `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?6Burkhard
28 Mar 24      +* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?2John Harshman
28 Mar 24      i`- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Ernest Major
28 Mar 24      `* Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?3J. J. Lodder
28 Mar 24       +- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Athel Cornish-Bowden
28 Mar 24       `- Re: IS A NEW THEORY OF EVOLUTION NEEDED?1Martin Harran

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