Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce!

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 18:06:05 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 2024-03-28 16:52:50 +0000, Mark Isaak said:
>

On 3/26/24 10:29 AM, Ron Dean wrote:

Mark Isaak wrote:

On 3/25/24 10:26 AM, Ron Dean wrote:

Mark Isaak wrote:

On 3/23/24 4:31 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:

Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:

Mark Isaak wrote:

 

[snip

 
And what about people for whom theism is their greatest motivator, such
as Obama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response.
 

Are you suggesting that Obama bin Laden is typical of Islam? If so,
you're probably right.

 
My apologies to Mark as I just Chez Watted this without realizing Mark had
originally posted Osama bin Laden and in Ron Dean’s reply Mark’s spelling
morphed to Obama bin Laden matching Ron Dean’s spelling. I wonder what that
indicates about Ron Dean…

 
Even without the typo, Ron's reply shows that he is grossly bigoted
against Arabs and Moslems. The typo suggests that Blacks and Democrats
may be added to the list.
 

Here you are so unfair.  It's easy to make accusations and charges
without even attempting to support them. This in and of itself
demonstrates your extreme bias and hatred of anyone with a
point of view, opinion or belief different from yours.

 
The support for your bigotry against Moslems is in your own post, and
that bigotry in turn is support for a suggestion of further bigotry. I
must admit that I had not considered the intervention of a
spell-checker. I have never known a spell-checker, uninvited, to alter
text that the user did not type himself.
 

I asked a question. "Are you suggesting that Osama bin Laden is typical
of Islam? If so (if you confirmed) you are probably right". If you
failed. I placed the burden on you! (Note here I defeated my
spell-checker)

 
Do you honestly not recognize the overt bigotry in what you just
repeated? It is really extremely gross and unforgivable.

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All the Muslims that I know (all highly educated women, at the moment)
are perfectly decent people. All of them would be very insulted to be
described as typical of Osama Ben Laden. None of them wear veils. A few
years ago there was a student who did wear a veil, but that was only in
her second when her husband came to join the institute. In her first
year she didn't, and was perfectly happy to have her photo taken (by
me) for a seminar series that my wife was organizing. She likewise had
nothing in common with Osama Ben Laden.

The problem is that bigots are generally unable to recognise their own
bigotry. When Ron Dean says that Osama bin Laden [1] is probably
typical of Islam, he simply doesn't realise how that shows his bigotry
towards Islam - I suspect that in his case, like most bigots IME, that
bigotry is based on total ignorance of the subject about which he is
bigoted.

[1] I'm assuming his changing of that to Obama was unintentional
though I could easily be convinced otherwise.