Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding

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Date : 03. Apr 2024, 15:40:14
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panther2020 <panther2020@vivaldi.net> wrote:
We share around half of our genes with the ordinary banana...
 
That assuredly does not come from humans BREEDING with bananas...  It
most liikely comes from humans EATING bananas, pretty much forever, and
probably throughout the universe and not just on  this planet.
 
Likewise, the first experience humans ever had with Neanderthals on
Earth was watching friends and family members being killed and eaten by
them, so that eating a Neanderthal that had been killed in some battle
would have just been sending the Neanderthals a message in their own
language...
 
In both cases, what you seem to be talking about is bacterial insertian
of genes.
 
There is a claim that, because some humans have a certain small number
of genes in common with Neanderthals, that humans and Neanderthals must
have interbred. That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male
could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her
afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to bear
a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and have
him/her breed back into human populations without anybody catching on,
i.e. the claim is ridiculous.
 
In real life:
 
Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner
left her alone for ten minutes.
 
The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie
attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
 
Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
 
And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part of
the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not need
DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it would be
exceedingly obvious.
 
https://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs
 
In other words, it would be a miracle for something like that to ever
have happened once while the claims from Paabo et. al. require it to
have been going on all the time. That is, for human/hominid
cross-breeding to have left detectable traces in the DNA of modern
humans, it would have to have been entirely common.
 
One zero-probability event in the history of the universe? Maybe, but
not an infinite series of them, i.e. not something that stands
everything we know about probability on its head.
 
Is your apparent genetic relatedness to your parents of mutual cannibalism
and/or bacterial insertion of their genes into you?


Date Sujet#  Auteur
3 Apr 24 * Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding17panther2020
3 Apr 24 +* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding8Athel Cornish-Bowden
4 Apr 24 i+* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding4RonO
4 Apr 24 ii`* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding3Athel Cornish-Bowden
4 Apr 24 ii `* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding2Ernest Major
5 Apr 24 ii  `- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1Athel Cornish-Bowden
4 Apr 24 i`* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding3John Harshman
4 Apr 24 i `* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding2*Hemidactylus*
5 Apr 24 i  `- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1John Harshman
3 Apr 24 +- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1*Hemidactylus*
3 Apr 24 +- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1Ernest Major
4 Apr 24 +* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding4panther2020
4 Apr 24 i+* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding2Ernest Major
4 Apr 24 ii`- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1Athel Cornish-Bowden
4 Apr 24 i`- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1*Hemidactylus*
5 Apr 24 `* Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding2Burkhard
5 Apr 24  `- Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding1*Hemidactylus*

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