Re: Common genes do not imply cross-species (human/hominid) breeding

John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/3/24 7:14 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

On 2024-04-03 13:29:25 +0000, panther2020 said:
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We share around half of our genes with the ordinary banana...
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That assuredly does not come from humans BREEDING with bananas...  It
most liikely comes from humans EATING bananas, pretty much forever,
and probably throughout the universe and not just on  this planet.
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Likewise, the first experience humans ever had with Neanderthals on
Earth was watching friends and family members being killed and eaten
by them, so that eating a Neanderthal that had been killed in some
battle would have just been sending the Neanderthals a message in
their own language...
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In both cases, what you seem to be talking about is bacterial
insertian of genes.
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There is a claim that, because some humans have a certain small number
of genes in common with Neanderthals, that humans and Neanderthals
must have interbred. That amounts to thinking that a Neanderthal male
could/would rape a woman and, rather than cooking and eating her
afterwards as usual, somehow or other keep her alive long enough to
bear a cross-species child, raise that child to reproductive age, and
have him/her breed back into human populations without anybody
catching on, i.e. the claim is ridiculous.
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In real life:
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Neanderthal females would kill that woman the first time her new owner
left her alone for ten minutes.
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The woman wouldn't fare any better than the subjects of the commie
attempts to breed humans and apes into super workers in the 1930s.
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Humans would notice the child was different (really different...)
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And humans would kill that child and everybody else like him as part
of the same program which killed out the Neanderthal. They would not
need DNA tests to determine who to kill for that sort of reason, it
would be exceedingly obvious.
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https://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs
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In other words, it would be a miracle for something like that to ever
have happened once while the claims from Paabo et. al. require it to
have been going on all the time. That is, for human/hominid
cross-breeding to have left detectable traces in the DNA of modern
humans, it would have to have been entirely common.
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One zero-probability event in the history of the universe? Maybe, but
not an infinite series of them, i.e. not something that stands
everything we know about probability on its head.

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Severe case of Dunning-Kruger here. So much speculation on so little
knowledge. I leave it to others with more energy (Mark?) to take it apart.
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No, this looks like a job for JTEM. Let them hash it out, and nobody
else needs to be bothered.
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What has panther2020 done that warrants that fate? You’re evil!