Re: West Virginia creationism

On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:48:46 -0400, Ron Dean
<rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:

Vincent Maycock wrote:

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 23:15:45 -0400, Ron Dean
<rondean-noreply@gmail.com> wrote:
 

jillery wrote:

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DNA information comes from none of the sources you identified above,
therefore it doesn't exist.  QED.
>

Each and every source of the information I mentioned, this information
involves the mind.
Information exist, and since it does, since there's no exception, then
it follows that information contained in DNA must also come from a mind.
Accidental, mindless, random processes give nothing, but gibberish.
Where there's nothing, but gibberish there is nothing for which natural
selection can select.

 
Without natural selection, information in the genome indeed becomes
gibberish.
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I said nothing about natural selection not existing - it does.

But you weren't able to identify when natural selection removes
gibberish.

But it conserves.

And it creates, as well, by removing less fit structures and
behaviors, just like a sculptor creates by removing marble.

 But with natural selection, something that's by chance  a

little bit less gibberish is preserved, so that over time there is
much, much more coherent information in the genome than before.
 

Why is any part of gibberish preserved?

It will be if, per chance, it happens to leave more offspring.

What "tells" NS that this bit of
gibberish will be needed later?

It doesn't need to know that.  In fact, natural selection is
restricted to operating on the fitness landscape that's locally
available to it.  It can't make leaps from one landscape peak to
another.

If gibberish is not needed why doesn't
the DNA's edit and repair systems not cut out this bit of gibberish?

Because DNA proofreading isn't perfect.  Many mutations make it past
edit and repair, where they can be expressed in the phenotype.