Re: Life: Turn it upside down!

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De : jtem01 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (JTEM)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 17. Apr 2024, 03:35:35
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  Arkalen wrote:

No. You're talking about abiogenesis. You're saying that it likely
occurred under the conditions you referenced. You introduced an
abiogenesis "hypothesis" that was centered on a proposed environment,
these conditions. Abiogenesis.

I talk about many things,
Sadly, then, that right now you chose to talk about nothing.
If you are now walking back your abiogenesis position, good.
Glad to see you do that.

I grant that a better technique would be to study that which exist,
instead of that which does not exist.

So that's a "no" then. Oh well.
"No"... what? "No I won't run off on your tangent.
Seriously, I do NOT want this to degraded into yet another
narcissism-fueled meltdown, not after you were doing so
good!
My position is consistent. Go back to my initial post:  Unchanged
view.
Sorry that consistency is so offensive.

"Assuming I am right, this is the right answer! And the right
answer is superior to all the others!"

Not "superior"; superior *in scope* (and
Typical narcissist.

This is a very odd thing to say. Because we have no explanation
for the origins of life, least of all one that has been
confirmed scientifically.
>
This is about what strikes you as good or not.

There is a big difference between an explanation we aren't sure is true, something that's a partial explanation and something that's not an explanation at all.
Not that it'll help but, my point was about HOW we go about
exploring the origins of life. You advocate studying that
which does not exist and I advocate studying that which does
exist.

The alkaline hydrothermal vent hypothesis
Oh who cares? Really. Even if one of these stabs in the dark
ever got it right -- scientists are able to spawn life from
non life under laboratory conditions -- it would simply be an
example of CREATIONISM.

is a partial explanation
It's not an explanation at all.
To pretend that it's half an explanation or 33% of an explanation
or even 5% of an explanation is a declaration of your beliefs,
not a statement of fact.

All scientific experimentation can ever accomplish is to
establish that something MAY happen given specific,
measurable conditions. It doesn't mean that it ever
happened nor that those conditions ever existed.
 Are you confused about the subject of conversation again?
No, I actually began the discussion!  And I've remained
consistent while you have repeatedly denied your very own
words!
We should change our focus, study those things that actually
exist, that we can study.
--
https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5

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