Re: West Virginia Governor signed the vague creationist education bill

Mark Isaak wrote:

On 3/30/24 9:37 AM, Ron Dean wrote:

RonO wrote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/22/west-virginia-intelligent-design-religion-teaching/367f8bba-e894-11ee-9eba-1558f848ec25_story.html >
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The claim is that if a student asks a teacher about some alternative "theory" the teacher can answer that question, but there is no recommendation on what an honest and acceptable answer would be since the "theory" that they want to get into the public schools isn't a scientific theory, and should probably be labeled as to what it is in any discussion on the topic.  If the legislators believe otherwise they should have made that clear in the act, and they should have been more honest as to what they were doing.

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Considering the Intelligent design argument does not identify a designer? How should this question be answered? A student wanted to know why Intellignet Design is wrong,

 The Intelligent Design hypothesis is not necessarily wrong. What students need to know about it is, first, that it violates Occam's Razor in that it posits superfluous and unnecessary entities;

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What entities does ID posit?
second, that it requires multiple designers, some of which work at cross-purposes and

some of which are inimical to humans;

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Where did you multiple designer? You provided no examples regarding cross-postoing and inimical to humans.
  and third, that past explanations

of natural phenomena in terms of the supernatural have a perfect record of failure.

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Really the origin of life, itself could very well be the work of God. The appearance of the complex unicellular animals of the Cambrian explosion. And the abrupt appearance and of most species in the strata could be explained as a act of God. And the origin of the universe called the Big Bang everything from nothing. Only God could create everything out or nothing. Of course, it comes down to anyone who denies the existence of God, has no alternative, but to try finding natural explanations for what is observed and known. But where did these natural laws, mathematics, and natural processes come from - IOW what is the origin of nature? For decades, I thought that agnosticism was the most rational point of view to have, but I recently come much closer to think there is evidence pointing to a strong possibility that there must be some thing out there beyond our universe called God calling the shots. But I don't pretend to know! But I think the evidence poijnting to God is there, and no contrary evidence.