Re: Evolution of consciousness

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Sujet : Re: Evolution of consciousness
De : martinharran (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Martin Harran)
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Date : 30. Apr 2024, 11:18:37
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 16:36:45 -0700, Mark Isaak
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My views on the evolution of consciousness are starting to gel.
>
1. Rudimentary nervous systems evolve.
2. Brains evolve, capable of memory and of decisions other than reflex.
3. Those decisions probably work better if the brain has a model of the
world to work with. So such a model evolves.
4. Some creatures live socially. Their brains need a model of that
important aspect of the world: the fellow beings one lives with,
including how they think.
5. So we've now got a model of minds. How about if we apply it to *our
own mind*? That might make our thinking about interactions with others'
minds more efficient.
6. Viola! Consciousness!
>
Does that make sense to people?  Is it time for me to write a book on
the subject? (Do you think publishers will want the book to be more than
106 words long?)

Michael Tomasello has already done a lot of the work for you and it's
a bit more than 106 words.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Agency-Behavioral-Organization-Lizards-ebook/dp/B09N6M6HDY/ref=sr_1_1



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There's also the problem of testing it. I'm open to suggestions there,
too. Step 4 implies that the model of how we think need not agree with
how we think, much as the mental model of our world is flat, not
spherical. This has at least some confirmation (e.g., blindness to many
biases). More would be better.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
30 Apr 24 * Evolution of consciousness14Mark Isaak
30 Apr 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1Chris Thompson
30 Apr 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1JTEM
30 Apr 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1Martin Harran
30 Apr 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1Richmond
30 Apr 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1erik simpson
1 May 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1Kalkidas
2 May 24 +- Re: Evolution of consciousness1LDagget
2 May 24 `* Re: Evolution of consciousness6Arkalen
2 May 24  `* Re: Evolution of consciousness5Mark Isaak
3 May 24   `* Re: Evolution of consciousness4Arkalen
6 May 24    `* Re: Evolution of consciousness3Mark Isaak
7 May 24     `* Re: Evolution of consciousness2Arkalen
7 May 24      `- Re: Evolution of consciousness1Arkalen

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