Re: Wistar Symposium "Mathematical Challenge to Neo-Darwinism".

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Sujet : Re: Wistar Symposium "Mathematical Challenge to Neo-Darwinism".
De : j.nobel.daggett (at) *nospam* gmail.com (LDagget)
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Date : 02. Jun 2024, 15:27:57
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El Kabong wrote:

Ron Dean wrote:

We've discussed this before. I think originally the genetic code was robust, but over time due to the 2/ND law and missed errors in copying,
 the robustness declined and continues to decline. This I
think was anticipated from the beginning of the genetic code and
several
 proofreading and repair machines were implanted into the code. But even
 these proofreading and repair systems are subject to errors over time. However, they still catch overwhelming numbers of mutations and
corrects
 them, but not all. The evidence I think supports this. Still, each generation inherits the mutations from previous generations and
develops
 new mutations, all of which is passed on down. At some distant time the
 genetic code in each species becomes increasingly less robust until reproduction
ceases and we see this in many extinctions as recorded in the fossil record.

Your invocation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is a
common creationist diversion.  It started as a deliberate
misrepresentation, and spread among the ignoratti such as
yourself.
Among the errors in Ron Dean's post is that he has confused the meaning of "Genetic Code". He's invoking some confused hodge-podge
thing which is some mix of genome sequence and the Genetic Code.
Genetic Code of course means the matching between nucleotide triplets and amino acids or stops. Of course it is also true that he has utterly failed to understand
how the 2nd law of thermodynamics actually works within a system
that is a chemical engine that burns through vast quantities of free energy.

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