Re: Wistar Symposium "Mathematical Challenge to Neo-Darwinism".

Ron Dean wrote:

Ernest Major wrote:

On 31/05/2024 18:36, Ron Dean wrote:

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How the biologist responded to these "problems"? I've found nothing on the net. I found a book on Amazon for $300, but I'm not buying it. This symposium took place in 1966, so it's possible that the
challenges have been met in the intervening years since then.

 At 10% of that price there is https://www.amazon.co.uk/Failures-Mathematical-Anti-Evolutionism-Jason-Rosenhouse/dp/1108820441
 

After I check the local library I'll look into this.

 The summary for chapter 4 is "We discuss the famous Wistar conference from 1966, in which high-level mathematical challenges to evolutionary theory were presented. We refute these challenges and discuss the historical significance of the conference in shaping modern
mathematical
 anti-evolutionism."

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Where there is mathematics involved, how is the math challenged? If not
 the math then what?

The answer is obvious as any student of engineering would know, and
much
more so one hopes of someone who claims to have a graduate degree. That answer is twofold. The wrong math was applied to a model, or the
wrong
model was applied making the math irrelevant garbage. Towards that, you imply really ignorant models to the rise of the first
proteins. It is evident that you don't understand the observed
chemistry
of RNA polymers. It is also evident that you don't understand the
chemistry
that goes into making stable proteins. It is also clear that you have no understanding of the various theories for the evolution of the
Genetic Code which is often tied to the production of fairly short polypeptides from a reduced set of amino acids in a primordial Genetic
Code. So you not only don't even know what the term Genetic Code actually
means as a term of art, but you don't understand the requisite
biochemistry,
or organic chemistry, or what is a reasonable model or not. Despite that, you proudly claim to have uncovered profound mathematical
problems with the rise of the first proteins. Astounding if typical for
you.