Sujet : Intelligent design the truly scientific method
De : rokimoto (at) *nospam* cox.net (RonO)
Groupes : talk.originsDate : 09. Jun 2024, 15:39:15
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It is likely more stupidity than any attempt at an honest effort that this article was put up under the ID perp's Faith and Science heading instead of Intelligent Design. Doesn't placing this article under Faith and Science indicate that Luskin is lying in his quotes in the article?
https://evolutionnews.org/2024/06/luskin-why-intelligent-design-is-the-truly-scientific-method/Just imagine what the ID scam would be like today if "ID uses the scientific method, is testable, and is perfectly happy when it yields a natural explanation for any given phenomenon. It’s also open to explanations that recognize the activity of a designing mind, when evidence supports that conclusion. The ID scientist who is a religious believer believes whatever he does for reasons of his own — not because he “used” ID to support his view."
Luskin should spend more time trying to explain why ID has only been used as bait to attract the rubes so that the Discovery Institute could feed them the obfuscation and denial switch scam that the ID perps tell the rubes has nothing to do with their ID science. Luskin is one of the authors of the current teach ID propaganda where the ID perps claim that the Dover decision was wrong, and ID can still be taught in the public schools, but as the last example in Virginia indicates, Luskin claimed that the ID perps did not want ID taught in the public schools, but they were pushing the switch scam onto the rubes that were stupid enough to pass legislation that would allow teaching IDiocy in the public schools.
No one has ever gotten any ID science to teach from the ID perps. The bait and switch has gone down every single time a group of creationist rubes takes them up on their claims to be able to teach the junk.
The ID scam died on TO because the creationist advocates were using it to support their religious beliefs, so Luskin is just lying. Nelson has been an ID perp from the initiation of the ID scam unit at the Discovery Institute, and he has never supported any ID science. The junk that the other ID perps were putting up was of no interest to Nelson. He always claimed that they were working on the science, but hadn't produced any, yet. If they had, young earth creationists like Nelson would have quit the ID scam because it would just have been more science to deny. Everyone should understand that this is true because what would Nelson have done if Meyer had ever scientifically demonstrated that some designer had been responsible for the Cambrian explosion within a 25 million year period over half a billion years ago, or if Behe had found his 3 neutral mutations that occurred in some bacteria over a billion years ago to help evolve the flagellum from preexisting parts?
The last IDiotic hold outs on TO quit because the Top Six evidences for IDiocy made them realize that they had only been lying to themselves about why they supported the ID scam. They were all doing it to support their religious beliefs, but the Top Six told them that any ID science would not be Biblical. It would just be more science to deny. The Reason to Believe creationists once claimed to be IDiotic intelligent design advocates, but they are now down playing it, and ID is no longer mentioned on their Home page. They also found that nature is not Biblical. It should have been no surprise because it was known that the world was not flat before Christ was born. There is no firmament above the earth, and the universe is not geocentric. Why would they expect to find that the order of creation was as written in the Bible? They even admit that a lot is not mentioned in the Bible like the origin of life and the subsequent evolution of that life over billions of years. They know that land plants created during the third period of time were created long after the first life forms were created, but they still need to deny what the Cambrian explosion fossils tell them and want land plants to have been created before sea creatures, and they want whales to be created with the first sea creatures when they obviously did not evolve until long after land animals had been created. The Reason to Believe IDiots even admit that they are using ID to support their Biblical interpretations, and they have found out that any real science works against them. It doesn't matter if they call it intelligent design science or not, science is just the study of nature, and nature is not Biblical.
Ron Okimoto