Re: Scientific Discoveries That Suggest Evolution Is False?

On 7/19/2024 3:02 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 23:19:26 -0400
jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:
 

On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 10:11:10 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:53:58 -0400
jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:54:57 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 7/15/24 12:27 AM, jillery wrote:

On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:03:39 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hey, it's Microsoft.  Remember the classic choice:  Abort Retry Ignore.
Always go with Ignore.

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Ignoring willful stupidity lets it grow and fester, as history and
recent events continue to demonstrate.
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https://xkcd.com/386/

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That's what everybody does on T.O., including you.  A subtle
distinction is people like me criticize the willfully stupid, while
people like you criticize people like me.  Perhaps it has something to
do with free will.  I leave as an exercise which behavior is better
for the froup.
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Seems like criticising criticism is 'en vogue' here. Despite (because?)
there are so few regulars.
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You're all a bunch of critics!
</paraphrase LoB>

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The ultimate reward for trolls is not just to get attention, but is to
get the regulars to critize each other.  When that happens, I imagine
the provocateurs quivering in orgasmic delight.  That's one way
mindlessly dismissive stereotypes like the cited XKCD meme aid and
abet willfully stupid behavior.
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 I doubt anyone is bothering to troll here (though JTEM does like to be
overly aggressive) . There do seem to be some long held grievances though.
 Death of Usenet is coming soon anyway.
 

The reality is that once the ID scam died on TO some of the regulars started to feed on each other.  That started to become an issue a decade ago as the ID scam subsided.  Philip Johnson quit the ID scam in 2006, and by 2007 supporters like Mike Gene and Salvador Cordova were admitting that the ID science had never existed.  After the double bait and switch on both Texas and Louisiana in 2013, and the ID perps removal of the paragraph about teaching ID in the public schools from their education policy.  ID was pretty much dead as a public issue for several years.  It wasn't until 2017 that the ID perps had to run the bait and switch on the Utah creationist rubes that wanted to teach ID in their public schools and were too stupid understand what had been going down for over 15 years.  With the decline of the ID scam over a decade ago the regulars turned on themselves, probably as convenient targets.
Usenet isn't the only thing going out.  After the ID perps shot themselves in the head by putting up the Top Six best evidences for IDiocy, not enough IDiotic creationists were dishonest and stupid enough to keep trying to support the scam and the ID perps had to pull the plug on Uncommon Descent.  The ID scam didn't just die on TO.  The ARN discussion group died after Dover.  The ISCID (IDiot science organization) closed the doors in 2008.  In 2009 the ID Network threw in the towel and started COPE to keep selling the obfuscation and denial switch scam without having ID in the name of their organization.  I noticed that the ID Network is back in business, but it looks like they are not serious about the effort and are just using ID as bait like the Discovery Institute because creationists aren't interested in supporting the obfuscation and denial switch scam without associating it with the ID creationist scam.  There just are not enough legitimate creationist issues to discuss.  The ID perps have kept selling the teach ID scam to the rubes, but ID has only been used as bait for the last 22 years. Every single instance that any creationist group has tried to actually teach the junk the bait and switch has gone down and all the rubes get is the obfuscation and denial switch scam that the ID perps tell the creationists has nothing to do with ID.  The ID perps have been the most effective suppression of teaching creationism in the public schools for the last two decades.  The IDiotic type creationists have never listened to the science side of the issue, but when the guys who sold them the scam tell you not to do it, most creationist rubes listen.  Nearly all of them have dropped the issue instead of bending over for the switch scam.
Ron Okimoto