Re: Neo-Darwinism is Dead.

On 8/2/24 9:56 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 17:17:57 -0700, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
<john.harshman@gmail.com>:
 

On 8/1/24 3:46 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 09:41:13 -0700, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
<john.harshman@gmail.com>:
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On 7/31/24 9:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 13:44:45 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman
<john.harshman@gmail.com>:
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On 7/31/24 1:20 PM, JTEM wrote:

     Bob Casanova wrote:
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I've also heard that a new non-rocket propulsion system
(which also ignores science and evidence) will soon be
available; some genius with the handle "calmagorod" is
perfecting it even as we post.
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And don't forget The Amazing Nando, who converses with rocks
(The Rock Whisperer?).

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Tee-hee!  Tee-hee!  You're so funny! And hilarious. You're
BOTH funny & hilarious! And clever. Oh so clever, you are!
No wonder you cower behind sock puppets; fear of all the
groupies hunting you down!
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Darwin was a dumb cunt who plagiarized his every word and
STILL got nearly all of it wrong. He wasn't even writing
about "Evolution." He was writing about "Common Descent."
And, no, he did NOT believe in "Evolution" not even after
others fed him the word. No, he agreed 100% with those who
would later REJECT evolution...

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You should read this fine book:
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https://www.amazon.com/Darwinism-Refutation-Myth-Soren-Lovtrup/dp/0709941536
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Plenty of ammunition there, and Løvrup was a real biologist.
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Here's a review:
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https://wasdarwinwrong.com/kortho28.htm
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You're welcome.
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And you expect this...person(?)...to actually read...why?

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I expect nothing, but it's an interesting book that he would like,
because it's quite wacko in just the way he is.
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Point taken. ;-)
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So it should probably be added to Chariots of the Gods, the
Calmagorod Papers and anything written about aquatic apes or
pyramidology on the "Light Reading for Whackos" list.

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It's actually worth a read if you're interested in evolutionary theory.
The first half is just history of science from a personal hatred of
Darwin, but the second half is an attempt to come up with a theory of
evolutionary process that's more predictive than natural selection. It's
crazy, but in a way that could inspire thought.
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Thanks for the info. I took a look, but $55, while not out
of line for a niche-market book, even used, is more than I'm
willing to spend.

This is why we have libraries. Dunno if you have a major university near you, but if so it's fairly likely they might have a copy.

I did read the review by Gert Korthof, and
from his comments it appears that the book is basically an
argument against natural selection as the be-all of
evolutionary theory, which is (I believe) an idea which
isn't that far from the mainstream, since unless I'm
mistaken the ToE, like all scientific theories, is a work in
progress, and what was true yesterday will almost certainly
be different tomorrow. Of course, that's it's strength, that
"settles science" is at best disingenuous, and at worst
dogma

Løvtrup goes a bit farther than arguing against natural selection. He tries to generate some laws of macroevolution, and that's an interesting if failed attempt.

Anyway, thanks again for the info.

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