Re: Creationism, Intelligent Design and Vendanta

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:24:30 +0000, Kestrel Clayton wrote:

On 06-Aug-24 09:46, RonO wrote:

I found an article on creationism, intelligent design and Vendanta. Even
though Kalkidas came out as a normal Biblical creationists there have
been Hindu sympathetic to Scientific Creationism and the ID creationist
scam on TO.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4802803/
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The author thinks that science is a search for truth.  I have never
considered science to be a search for truth.  It is just the best means
we have of developing a working understanding of nature.  This
understanding may not be the "truth" but it could be close, and allows
us to improve our understanding of nature and expand a functional
understanding of the reality that we exist in.
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I do not recall Kalk ever stating how intelligent design supported his
hindu beliefs, and vice versa, but he did quote the Vedas from time to
time.
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A section of the paper compares Vendata to the ID creationist scam.

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Huh. I missed Kalkidas coming out as a fundamentalist Christian
creationist. Did he have a conversion experience, or was he a Christian
all along and lying about it?

neither, as far as I can tell. Though of course conversions, while
comparatively rare, do happen. But as far as I'm aware, he always was
and  still is a follower of Vaishnavism.
He only ever objected to certain labels (with some good reasons I'd say)
so
the use of the exonym Hinduism

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Either way, I'm not all that surprised. For a lot of folks, denialism
isn't about what is, but rather what ISN'T: Moon landing denialists will
gladly accommodate flat-Earthers, orbit-onlyists,
fake-landings-real-pictures, fake-pictures-real-landings, and even
"secret nazi base on the far side of the Moon" crackpots, as long as
they all agree that the official account is somehow bogus.

Well, that's possibly closer the issue, as you, me and pretty much all
other contributors to TO on the science side are dead, we just
did not get the memo yet - the bioengineered Covid vaccine killed
us all, as planned by the oligarchs, for reasons unknown. Or so
Kalkidas