Re: Creationism, Intelligent Design and Vendanta

On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 0:57:13 +0000, Chris Thompson wrote:
 

Burkhard wrote:

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:24:30 +0000, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
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On 06-Aug-24 09:46, RonO wrote:

I found an article on creationism, intelligent design and Vendanta. Even
though Kalkidas came out as a normal Biblical creationists there have
been Hindu sympathetic to Scientific Creationism and the ID creationist
scam on TO.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4802803/
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The author thinks that science is a search for truth.  I have never
considered science to be a search for truth.  It is just the best means
we have of developing a working understanding of nature.  This
understanding may not be the "truth" but it could be close, and allows
us to improve our understanding of nature and expand a functional
understanding of the reality that we exist in.
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I do not recall Kalk ever stating how intelligent design supported his
hindu beliefs, and vice versa, but he did quote the Vedas from time to
time.
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A section of the paper compares Vendata to the ID creationist scam.

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Huh. I missed Kalkidas coming out as a fundamentalist Christian
creationist. Did he have a conversion experience, or was he a Christian
all along and lying about it?

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neither, as far as I can tell. Though of course conversions, while
comparatively rare, do happen. But as far as I'm aware, he always was
and  still is a follower of Vaishnavism.
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He only ever objected to certain labels (with some good reasons I'd say)
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the use of the exonym Hinduism
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Either way, I'm not all that surprised. For a lot of folks, denialism
isn't about what is, but rather what ISN'T: Moon landing denialists will
gladly accommodate flat-Earthers, orbit-onlyists,
fake-landings-real-pictures, fake-pictures-real-landings, and even
"secret nazi base on the far side of the Moon" crackpots, as long as
they all agree that the official account is somehow bogus.

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Well, that's possibly closer the issue, as you, me and pretty much all
other contributors to TO on the science side are dead, we just
did not get the memo yet - the bioengineered Covid vaccine killed
us all, as planned by the oligarchs, for reasons unknown. Or so
Kalkidas
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Wasn't it Nando who was sure we'd all be dead by now? Was he an
alter-ego of Kalkidas?
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 not alter ego, and of course much worse, but somewhat disappointingly
in case of Kalkidas, he also predicted imminent doom. To
rephrase Chesterton's dictum (on victorian atheists), When a
person stops believing in science they don’t then believe
in nothing, they believe anything.