Re: New SETI search

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Sujet : Re: New SETI search
De : twang (at) *nospam* the.noodle (El Kabong)
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Date : 27. Aug 2024, 18:04:24
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RonO wrote:
On 8/27/2024 8:27 AM, El Kabong wrote:
RonO wrote:
On 8/27/2024 2:11 AM, Ernest Major wrote:
On 27/08/2024 06:24, El Kabong wrote:
Previous searches at Aricebo and other sites looked for
alien signals at 1420 Mhz.  They picked that frequency
because it is a hydrogen line.  The thinking is that
aliens would more likely broadcast there than an
arbitrary frequency.  It never made sense to me because
the signal will be attenuated by any hydrogen lying in
the path, and because if you tune in to the hydrogen
line, you'll find... hydrogen noise!
>
The argument is that the 1420 MHz line is less arbitrary, and is not
absorbed by interstellar dust.
 
Any radio signal is less absorbed by dust than optical
wavelengths.
 
1420 was probably a good pick, but it does have that
drawback.
 
If the aliens had broadcast at 1420 MHz what would be the frequency that
we would detect in an expanding universe?  I realize that some galaxies
are moving towards us, but the red shift indicates that most things are
getting further away from us in all directions due to the Big Bang.
 
Any radio signal we receive will be redshifted.  But we
are not looking for extragalactic signals, they would be
way too faint.  We are looking for something here in our
own neighborhood of the Milky Way, around 10k lightyears
max.  At that distance the redshift is measurable but
unimportant, even for a narrow-band receiver.
 
This example is looking at other galaxies.
 
Ron Okimoto

Yes, I missed that obvious statement in the article.
Between that, and the wide field nature of the receiving
antenna, the aliens would have to broadcast a signal with
the power of a star to reach us.  I wish them luck.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Aug 24 * New SETI search25RonO
27 Aug 24 +- Re: New SETI search1JTEM
27 Aug 24 `* Re: New SETI search23El Kabong
27 Aug 24  +- Re: New SETI search1Ernest Major
27 Aug 24  +* Re: New SETI search7Ernest Major
27 Aug 24  i`* Re: New SETI search6RonO
27 Aug 24  i +* Re: New SETI search3El Kabong
27 Aug 24  i i`* Re: New SETI search2RonO
27 Aug 24  i i `- Re: New SETI search1El Kabong
27 Aug 24  i +- Re: New SETI search1JTEM
30 Aug 24  i `- Re: New SETI search1J. J. Lodder
3 Sep 24  `* Re: New SETI search14Mark Isaak
3 Sep 24   +- Re: New SETI search1JTEM
3 Sep 24   +- Re: New SETI search1Bob Casanova
3 Sep 24   +* Re: New SETI search8J. J. Lodder
3 Sep 24   i+* Re: New SETI search6Bob Casanova
4 Sep 24   ii`* Re: New SETI search5J. J. Lodder
4 Sep 24   ii `* Re: New SETI search4Bob Casanova
5 Sep 24   ii  `* Re: New SETI search3J. J. Lodder
5 Sep 24   ii   `* Re: New SETI search2Bob Casanova
5 Sep 24   ii    `- Re: New SETI search1JTEM
5 Sep 24   i`- Re: New SETI search1Mark Isaak
4 Sep 24   `* Re: New SETI search3Ernest Major
5 Sep 24    +- Re: New SETI search1JTEM
5 Sep 24    `- Re: New SETI search1J. J. Lodder

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