Sujet : Re: Censorship
De : ecphoric (at) *nospam* allspamis.invalid (*Hemidactylus*)
Groupes : talk.originsDate : 11. Nov 2024, 19:22:20
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*Hemidactylus* <
ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 08:57:35 -0500
jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:
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Sig sep is missing the trailing space^
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge
Ignore the ignorant!
We're in a post-truth world now.
There’s always Socratic irony, which is a feigned epistemic state. Phil
Hartman as Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
Here is Erik Simpson making that…ummm…case:
https://eriksimpson.sites.grinnell.edu/Connections/Poetry/Terms/tropes4.htmlWell perhaps not our Erik Simpson.
“Socratic irony involves downplaying the speaker's authority to bring an
opponent into an argument and then, if all goes well, to reveal the greater
ignorance of the opponent. The term comes from Plato's representations of
Socrates debating a series of questioners; Socrates always begins by
emphasizing his own ignorance, but he goes on to show the problems in the
knowledge the questioner thought he possessed. A modern use of Socratic
irony is that of Phil Hartman's Cirroc, the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer on
Saturday Night Live. To win his cases, Cirroc downplays his knowledge of
modern ways:
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm just
a caveman. I fell on some ice and later
got thawed out by some of your scientists.
Your world frightens and confuses me!
Sometimes the honking horns of your
traffic make me want to get out of my
BMW and run off into the hills, or
wherever. Sometimes when I get a message
on my fax machine, I wonder: "Did
little demons get inside and type it?"
I don't know! My primitive mind
can't grasp these concepts. But there
is one thing I do know - when a man
like my client slips and falls
on a sidewalk in front of a public
library, then he is entitled to no
less than two million in compensatory
damages, and two million in punitive
damages. Thank you.
Cirroc wins his cases by becoming a comic Socrates.”
I’ve also heard Columbo made as an example. I just love Hartman more.