Re: politics

J. J. Lodder wrote:

Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com> wrote:
 

On 18-Nov-24 12:11, J. J. Lodder wrote:

Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:48:38 -0800, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
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On 11/18/24 1:21 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
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I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are
off-topic.  I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of
affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do
about it.

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Unsatisfactory politics may have scientific consequences,
as seen before WWII.
It looks like the USA is getting ready to give back
some of 'Hitler's present'.
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European universities will no doubt be willing to accomodate
outstanding scientific refugies.
The fact that some of their lecturing is in English these days
will make it easier,
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Jan
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As you see, we are pretty messed up, but then the whole world is pretty
messed up.  There are encouraging signs here and there, so let's hope
for the best.
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A-a-a-a-nd so much for the moratorium.

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Says you. Your good old USA, with its creationism/ID
is -the- source for mixing politics into science,

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Yeah, the issues aren't really separable. Modern creationism didn't
evolve in a vacuum; it has always been tied to right-wing politics. And
the folks who will be taking charge of the US in January are
science-denying fruitcakes of every possible stripe.

 And like in Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia the movement
will no doubt be reinforced by ordinary careerism.
Driving out good scientsts by throwing accusations at them
of not being politically correct by the standards of the day
makes room for second rate nobodies wanting jobs.

It's worked in the Church for two thousand years, after all.
William Hyde