Re: politics

On 2024-11-19 15:46:10 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:

jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:39:24 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

On 2024-11-18 17:24:40 +0000, *Hemidactylus* said:
 

Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:

On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:48:38 -0800, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
 

On 11/18/24 1:21 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are
off-topic.  I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of
affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do about it.

 Unsatisfactory politics may have scientific consequences,
as seen before WWII.
It looks like the USA is getting ready to give back
some of 'Hitler's present'.
 European universities will no doubt be willing to accomodate
outstanding scientific refugies.
The fact that some of their lecturing is in English these days
will make it easier,
 Jan
 

As you see, we are pretty messed up, but then the whole world is pretty
messed up.  There are encouraging signs here and there, so let's hope
for the best.
 

A-a-a-a-nd so much for the moratorium.
 

I don’t see a moratorium as workable. There are somewhat topical political
developments such as RFK Jr touted as health secretary and would influence
policy over response to evolving infectious agents.
 Plus people (eg- Martin Harran and JJ Lodder) are going to blow steam as
they see us nose dive into the Trumpian sewer from afar as NATO fragments
while Putin ascends upon their doorsteps.

 There is no need for NATO to fragment. Other than the USA, and perhaps
Turkey, it's holding together pretty well.

  <cough>  Hungary  <cough>
 

Good point.

OK, I accept that. I went to a meeting in Badacsony and was surprised to learn that the organizer, a distinguished scientist that I admire, was a supporter of Orbán. However, that was in 2013; maybe he's changed his views since. Another Hungarian scientist that I know is very conservative and anti-communist in her opinions. However, I haven't seen her since 1999, and I don't know what she thinks of Orbán. On the other hand, the late Tamás Keleti and his wife were possibly the last sincere communists left in Hungary.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly in England until 1987.