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Date : 03. Dec 2024, 15:20:07
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 09:08:28 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> wrote:

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My take is that most Christians no longer fear God in this way.  It is
why most Catholics are just fine with the Heliocentric heresy.
Heliocentrism was never removed as a heresy in the Church. 

It was never removed as a heresy because it never was a heresy. You
have been told that multiple times, yet you persist in stating it.

It was only
down graded, to a more minor heresy

There is no such thing as a "minor" heresy. There are degrees of
heresy including one of being *suspected* of heresy which was what
Galile was charged with.

not punishable by the death penalty,
in the 19th century.  It is why the Pope can come out in support of
biological evolution, and most Christians don't care how old the earth
is.  There is still a lot of fear-of-God involved in Christianity, but
it doesn't have the strangle hold that it used to have.
>
Laurie Lebo covered the Dover case and part of her story was her
interactions with her father.  Her father supported the ID scam because
of what he believed his god would do.  He wasn't bathing in the love and
communion, but was in fear of hell's fire and damnation.
>
Ron Okimoto


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