Re: Another California child infected by H5N1

On 12/11/2024 2:02 PM, RonO wrote:

On 12/9/2024 2:47 PM, RonO wrote:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-12-h5n1-bird-flu-case-california.html
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They haven't confirmed that it is the Dairy virus, but it seems to be H5N1.  Marin County is North of San Francisco.  The first child was in Alameda that is South of San Francisco.  The child has no known exposure to animals.  If it is the dairy virus they have to start testing the milk supply.  That is the direct contact that these kids have with dairy cows, but they did not test the milk supply after the first child because it is bad for the dairy industry.  Pasteurized milk is supposed to be safe, but the CDC's own research indicated that the virus could survive the most common pasteurization method and could survive in whole milk for 4 days.  The FDA claimed that it was doing further tests on the milk supply after that study, but nothing has been published about their results (Project started in early Nov.) and they were doing the study incorrectly.  They were asking for volunteers and claimed that they would keep the dairies anonymous.  The processing plants that did not volunteer are the ones that you want to test as the most likely to have issues with their pasteurization.  The method may be 100% effective when within specifications, but how often are those specifications not met? That is the main question that the FDA has to answer.
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Ron Okimoto
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 https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/health/california-bird-flu-child-raw- milk-marin/index.html
 California is claiming that the Marin County child case drank raw milk.
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California health officials are investigating a possible case of bird flu in a child who became ill after drinking raw milk, Marin County Public Health said Tuesday.
 The child went to a local emergency department in November with fever and vomiting after drinking raw milk and tested positive for influenza A, the county said.
 The milk was sold under the Raw Farm brand, according to Niccore Tyler, chief assistant director of Marin County Health and Human Services.
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 Initial testing by the CDC to confirm have been negative, but what samples are they testing?  It sounds like a gut infection.  The cats that were tested were found to have completely empty guts.  They had ingested raw milk, but had completely pooped themselves out before they died.
 Ron Okimoto
 

CBS is reporting that an unofficial CDC source close to the case has told them that H5N1 was not detected in the Marin County child case.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-child-suspected-bird-flu-raw-milk/
The child had tested positive for Influenza A (regular human flu), but it either was not H5N1 (H5N1 is an influenza A virus, but has not adapted to human infection) or the CDC could not confirm the presence of H5N1.
Ron Okimoto