Re: Running out of data to train AI programs.

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 23:33:20 +0000, erik simpson wrote:

On 12/11/24 3:02 PM, RonO wrote:

On 12/11/2024 4:45 PM, erik simpson wrote:

On 12/11/24 2:17 PM, RonO wrote:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03990-2
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The claim in this article is that soon the AI programers will run out
of data to train their AI on.  If they want to improve their AI they
will have to create their own data, but how are they going to do that?
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My guess is that they will identify what data would be most
beneficial to have and try to generate it.  It could direct medical
research into generating useful data.
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They could also spend decades weeding through the data that has
already been used and throw out the trash data.  They could also go
through the scientific experiments in a field and use the good data,
but remove the conclusions of the researhers, and see what
conclusions the AI can come up with, cross check the conclusions to
see if there was anything missed by the original researchers and use
that to train some other AI.
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Ron Okimoto
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Why not let AI create its own data.  Then we wouldn't have to worry
about it.  And think of the great literature and movies!
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That results in increased bogus output by the AI.
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The AI start to "hallucinate" when fed data generated by other AI
according to one article that I recall reading.  I think one poster
responded that AI hallucination can be caused by other factors too.
Maybe the AI generate data in a format that they were not trained to
deal with, and that causes issues in assimilating AI generated data.
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Ron Okimoto
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I was joking about AI -> AI generating anything sensible.  AI is very
useful detecting patterns in all kinds of data.  Applying in to weather
data could save millions if not billions of dollars.  AI navel-gazing
isn't going to work.

The problem remains the lack of intelligence.
For this I cite heavy promoters of AI.