Re: Irony

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Sujet : Re: Irony
De : eastside.erik (at) *nospam* gmail.com (erik simpson)
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Date : 16. Dec 2024, 17:07:54
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On 12/15/24 10:10 PM, MarkE wrote:
I've raised Steven Benner's "tar paradox" in a recent post; it subsequently occurred to me that the Miller-Urey experiment is, ironically, a demonstration of this (I've mentioned this in a another thread, but thought it deserved a separate post). Miller-Urey produced only unusable small/trace amounts of amino acids in a "tar" mixture:
 Breakdown of products:
* Carboxylic Acids (e.g., formic acid, acetic acid, and succinic acid): These dominated the product mix, typically making up 80-90% of the total organic compounds.
* Hydroxy Acids (e.g., lactic acid and glycolic acid): Accounted for 5-10% of the total.
* Amino Acids: Typically contributed about 1-2% of the total organic product yield.
* Other Organic Molecules: Small amounts of urea, nitriles, aldehydes, and hydrocarbons were also formed, constituting the remainder of the products.
 Relative concentrations of amino acids produced:
- Glycine: Approximately 2.1% of the total yield
- Alanine: Around 1.7%
- β-Alanine: About 0.76%
- Aspartic Acid: Approximately 0.024%
- Glutamic Acid: Around 0.051%
 
The MIller-Urey experiment was important because it showed that complex molecules like amino acids could be formed naturally.  It wasn't a good approximation of the conditions necessary to make them is usable concentration.  The M-U process mostly produced tar.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Dec 24 * Irony7MarkE
16 Dec17:07 +- Re: Irony1erik simpson
16 Dec19:50 `* Re: Irony5Ernest Major
16 Dec22:32  `* Re: Irony4MarkE
17 Dec02:28   +* Re: Irony2MarkE
17 Dec04:59   i`- Re: Irony1erik simpson
19 Dec06:59   `- Re: Irony1MarkE

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