Re: Irony

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Sujet : Re: Irony
De : eastside.erik (at) *nospam* gmail.com (erik simpson)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 16. Dec 2024, 17:07:54
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On 12/15/24 10:10 PM, MarkE wrote:
I've raised Steven Benner's "tar paradox" in a recent post; it subsequently occurred to me that the Miller-Urey experiment is, ironically, a demonstration of this (I've mentioned this in a another thread, but thought it deserved a separate post). Miller-Urey produced only unusable small/trace amounts of amino acids in a "tar" mixture:
 Breakdown of products:
* Carboxylic Acids (e.g., formic acid, acetic acid, and succinic acid): These dominated the product mix, typically making up 80-90% of the total organic compounds.
* Hydroxy Acids (e.g., lactic acid and glycolic acid): Accounted for 5-10% of the total.
* Amino Acids: Typically contributed about 1-2% of the total organic product yield.
* Other Organic Molecules: Small amounts of urea, nitriles, aldehydes, and hydrocarbons were also formed, constituting the remainder of the products.
 Relative concentrations of amino acids produced:
- Glycine: Approximately 2.1% of the total yield
- Alanine: Around 1.7%
- β-Alanine: About 0.76%
- Aspartic Acid: Approximately 0.024%
- Glutamic Acid: Around 0.051%
 
The MIller-Urey experiment was important because it showed that complex molecules like amino acids could be formed naturally.  It wasn't a good approximation of the conditions necessary to make them is usable concentration.  The M-U process mostly produced tar.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Dec 24 * Irony21MarkE
16 Dec 24 +- Re: Irony1erik simpson
16 Dec 24 +* Re: Irony5Ernest Major
16 Dec 24 i`* Re: Irony4MarkE
17 Dec 24 i +* Re: Irony2MarkE
17 Dec 24 i i`- Re: Irony1erik simpson
19 Dec 24 i `- Re: Irony1MarkE
26 Dec 24 `* Re: Irony14RonO
29 Dec 24  `* Re: Irony13MarkE
29 Dec 24   `* Re: Irony12RonO
30 Dec 24    `* Re: Irony11MarkE
31 Dec 24     +* Re: Irony2RonO
1 Jan 25     i`- Re: Irony1MarkE
1 Jan 25     `* Re: Irony8Martin Harran
2 Jan 25      +- Re: Irony1MarkE
2 Jan 25      `* Re: Irony6MarkE
2 Jan 25       `* Re: Irony5Martin Harran
3 Jan 25        `* Re: Irony4MarkE
3 Jan 25         +- Re: Irony1Kerr-Mudd, John
3 Jan 25         `* Re: Irony2Martin Harran
4 Jan 25          `- Re: Irony1MarkE

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