Re: Second California child infected with H5N1

On 1/14/2025 4:01 PM, RonO wrote:

On 1/13/2025 2:21 PM, RonO wrote:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/san-francisco- reports-h5n1-avian-flu-child
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They are not saying whether it is the dairy virus, but conjunctivitis is the primary symptom of dairy virus infection.  They do not know how the child was infected, but since it is an eye infection my first guess is that the child was infected by a dairy worker contact.  The first child infected by the dairy virus had a gut infection that likely came from ingesting pasteurized milk (they claim the source of infection is unknown, but the childs only contact with dairy cattle was the milk they drank).  This child doesn't have a gut infection, and it is likely that cows have been infected by infected dairy workers primarily shedding virus from their eyes.  All of this has been denied by the USDA and CDC even though they know that dairy workers are spreading the virus, and that infected dairy workers shed live virus.
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More commercial poultry flocks are going down.
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Still no results from the USDA bulk milk tank testing, and the CDC's claims to have started testing dairy workers over a month ago.  As sad as it may be the CDC claimed that one of the reasons that they needed to test the dairy workers (they found out that 7 to 10% of them were likely getting infected) was to treat the infected with anti-virals to reduce virus production and prevent the evolution of the virus into one more likely to infect humans.  They haven't started testing, as far as I know.  The dairy workers infected when they made the annoucement over a month ago have already recovered from the infection by now.  How may dairy worker have recovered in the time that they have been doing nothing since the start of the infection in March?
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Ron Okimoto
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 A lot of cats have  been determined to be infected with H5N1.  All have died.  It is scary that it becomes a neurological infection in cats that eat raw pet food or that drank the recalled raw milk.
 https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/h5n1-confirmed-more- cats-probe-raw-pet-food-widens
 The USDA isn't saying which virus is infecting the cats, but they do have the information on their mammal infection page.
 https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian- influenza/hpai-detections/mammals
 All the California cats except the last two (sampled Dec 26) in Los Angeles have had the dairy virus.  The two that are only claimed to have had the EA virus (East Asian H5N1) either haven't been confirmed to have the dairy virus or they may have another strain.  If they have another strain they need to figure out why the cats died, and how they were infected.
 The USDA needs to start differentiating the virus strains because the dairy virus comes from dairy products including dairy cow carcasses, while other virus may be due to wild bird infections.
 Ron Okimoto
 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/cdc-tests-confirm-another-h5n1-case-california
The child with conjunctivitis (the dairy virus symptom) has been confirmed to have been infected by H5N1, but they continue to suppress the information as to whether it was the dairy virus or not.  The suppression is stupid.  It started because too many cats and poultry flocks were getting infected by the Dairy virus in California, Oregon and Washingtion when Washington and Oregon have not admitted to having infected herds, but the dairy virus is obviously coming from somewhere, and it is known to come from dairy farms for all the poultry infections in other states with infected dairies.
The child had no dairy cattle contact so how did it get infected in their eyes?  They likely have to do contact tracing back to dairies. This may be a case of human to human infection.  Infected dairy and poultry workers are known to shed live virus from their eyes.
For the infection to come from milk the child would need to spill milk on their hands and rub their eyes.  An infected dairy worker could infect the child by rubbing faces together or touching the child face after rubbing their own eyes.  If the two child cases with unknown source of infection did come from the milk that they drank, it would mean that the virus is surviving pasteurization like the CDC suspected back in October when their own study indicated that infectious virus might survive the most common form of pasteurization.  The FDA claimed that they were going to check it out, but nothing seems to have been done.  All they did was publish a bogus protocol and started asking for volunteer processing plants and dairies.  It looks like they didn't get any volunteers.  They needed to go to processing plants in infected dairy states and check the milk coming into the plant, and check it after pasteurization.  They needed to review the process to see any break points.  Just a few gallons could account for the rare infections.   They needed to evaluate the process at start up, shift changes, and maintenance procedures, but instead they have done nothing.
More herds in California, more poultry flocks around the US, but no results from their silo study for the USDA.  How little effort are the CDC, USDA, and FDA putting into the dairy influenza epidemic?  The CDC claimed that they were going to start testing dairy workers last November, and nothing has happened.  Around a 100 infected dairies ago California was claiming over 5,000 dairy workers at infected dairies. There have likely been over 500 worker infections just in California, by now.
Ron Okimoto