Sujet : Re: To sum up
De : martinharran (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Martin Harran)
Groupes : talk.originsDate : 15. Feb 2025, 11:28:39
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 15:59:53 +1100, MarkE <
me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/02/2025 1:53 pm, Mark Isaak wrote:
On 2/8/25 5:06 AM, MarkE wrote:
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My argument is therefore, as complexity goes up, the challenges to
naturalistic OOL and evolution also increase.
Evolution produces complexity without the least concern. Design tries to
minimize it and create simplicity. As complexity goes up, the challenge
to designed OOL also increases.
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My assertion is self-evident, is it not? I.e.:
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OOL: the more complex the first self-replicating entity needs to be, the
greater the challenge to its prebiotic (i.e. pre-Darwinian evolution)
formation.
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Evolution: the more complex a "higher" organism, given a maximum
plausible rate of mutation, fixation and time, the greater the challenge
to its evolution.
According to that theory, the increasing complexity in iron and steel
compounds over the last few centuries means that we can no longer
belive that they all began with iron atoms.
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On the other hand, your assertion that "evolution produces complexity
without the least concern" is not self-evident, and is neither an
argument nor a rebuttal. The capability of evolution to produce
complexity is, rather, a fundamental contention.