Re: Evolutionary creationism

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Sujet : Re: Evolutionary creationism
De : rokimoto557 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (RonO)
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Date : 11. Mar 2025, 15:21:24
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On 3/11/2025 5:06 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:20:56 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
wrote:
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They are still not abiding by
Saint Augustine's admonishment about not using the Bible to make claims
about what we can determine for ourselves about nature, so my guess is
that their efforts can still fail to represent nature accurately
depending on how consistent with the Bible that they want to be.
 They are NOT in any way contradicting Saint Augustine's admonishment,
they are following it perfectly.
 If you think differently then like MarkE, you haven't properly grasped
the meaning of what St Augustine meant.
 
They are trying to force biological evolution into conforming with their Biblical interpretation.  As such what are they missing about biological evolution?  Some of them are denying that natural mechanisms were involved in some of that evolution.  That is exactly what Saint Augustine warned against doing.
This is just the next stage of science denial that some of them will use their acceptance of some of the science to cover up.  Some of them likely have deistic notions like Denton, and do not require any designer interference with evolution, but some of them are tweekers like Behe, and still remain under Saint Augustine's admonishment.
These creationists are claiming that some of the existing science is consistent with their Biblical interpretation, but it is not consistent with what other creationists believe.  If we rewrote the Bible today with our current understanding of cosmology we would still be wrong about some things, and they would have to be rewritten at some later date.  Saint Augustine's admonishment makes it unnecessary to rewrite or reinterpret the Bible.
Ron Okimoto

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