Sujet : Re: Evolutionary creationism
De : cates_db (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (DB Cates)
Groupes : talk.originsDate : 19. Mar 2025, 04:30:41
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On 2025-03-18 12:16 p.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:26:24 -0500, DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>
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On 2025-03-18 3:13 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:31:30 -0500, DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>
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On 2025-03-17 8:31 a.m., Martin Harran wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 08:42:49 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Thank you for that. I had to stop snipping replies to Ron because if
you snip anything at all, he claims you were running from his
arguments and reposts the same stuff so you end up with a post 2 or 3
times longer than it needs to be :(
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We believe that God acts purposefully in creation, just as he does in
our lives, and that he continues to actively uphold and sustain creation.
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And again, nothing there about God tweaking life the way Behe claims.
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Out of curiosity, what do you think the phrase "he continues to actively
uphold and sustain creation." mean? I mean, in particular "continues"
and "actively".
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I see this as a background thing, not a direct process. I have 5
grown-up children, all with children of their own. I continue to
actively uphold and sustain them in whatever way they need but I do
not *interfere* in their lives. If, for example, they make decisions
that I don't agree with, I *might* offer an opinion if I think it will
be welcome but the decision is entirely theirs and I fully accept and
support whatever they do decide. The help and support I (and my wife)
give them is on request, not pushed on them, though they know it is
available when needed, and is given unconditionally.
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That's why I think the analogy of God as father is a particularly apt
one.
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I'm having difficulty reconciling that view with a purported omniscient
entity.
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I'm struggling to grasp what difficulty you have, can you elaborate?
IMHO, asked for tweaking is still tweaking and an omniscient tweaker is likely doing miracles.
-- -- Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)
Evolutionary creationism
Re: Evolutionary creationism