Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection

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Sujet : Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection
De : martinharran (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Martin Harran)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 19. Mar 2025, 13:56:27
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:00:03 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:21:45 -0600, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Pro Plyd
<invalide@invalid.invalid>:
>
Bob Casanova wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 17:41:22 +0000, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Martin Harran
<martinharran@gmail.com>:
 
On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:24:23 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
As I said, "This post is not an opportunity to dive down the hundred
rabbit holes that this overview touches on." The micro/macro question is
_the_ evolution debate.
>
Simply clarifying whether you accept that humans are members of the
ape family, all evolved from a common ancestor, or whether you think
humans were created separately as a standalone species doesn't involve
any rabbit holes.
>
Of course it doesn't. If this discussion were a football
game (US type), he'd be a star receiver; he can weave and
dodge with the best of them.
 
(Still waiting for that info regarding the "Increased
traction" for ID...)
>
>
Here it is:
>
Yeah, that was my take, too:
>
1) Assert.
2) When asked for evidence, ignore or waffle.
3) Reassert.
>
Lather, rinse, repeat.
>

He kinda tried to move away from that (without actually retracting it)
by starting a new thread  "Observe the trend. It's happening. Give it
time."

In that new thread, however, he basically just regurgitated previous
claims and a couple of new references [1] about the shortfalls in
current scientific knowledge. He didn't give anything that supports an
increase in support for ID.


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[1] New to him; most of them are quite old.


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23 Feb 25 * The status of ID and a personal reflection101MarkE
23 Feb 25 +* Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection22jillery
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24 Feb 25 i `* Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection14jillery
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