Re: Observe the trend

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Sujet : Re: Observe the trend
De : 69jpil69 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (jillery)
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Date : 25. Mar 2025, 18:20:05
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 07:57:19 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 02:43:05 -0400, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
>
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 14:37:15 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
>
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 09:12:26 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Mark Isaak
<specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net>:
>
On 3/14/25 9:19 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:13:29 +1100, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com>:
 
<snip>
>
The measure of literalism is in the *interpretation* of the text of
Genesis, not the quoting of it.
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Nope; sorry. "Literalism" literally (sorry 'bout that) means
that the text is taken exactly as read; no interpretation
allowed. If it's interpreted it's not taken literally.
>
Note that interpretation and literalism are not mutually exclusive. For
example, if I say, "The cat chased the dog" and you think, "It must have
been a pretty mean cat," that's interpretation, even though you still
read it literally.
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So if I interpret "chased" to mean "played poker with", and
you interpret it to mean "had sex with", "chased" is
literally true for both? Seems like a not very good way to
ensure accurate communication, but whatever floats your
boat...
>
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Not sure why I bother, but try this:
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You are correct, that it's important to agree on definitions.
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You are not correct, that the definitions you prefer are necessarily
the correct ones for a given context.
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Not sure why I bother, but try this:
>
Replace "the definitions you prefer" with "the definitions
found in the OED", which I noted and you ignored. Again.


You originally specified a SINGLE definition.  And again above.  So
twice you made zero accomodation for other definitions. Either way,
unless you're now claiming those are NOT the definitions you prefer,
then your objection is non sequitur.  Again.

And not sure why I bother, but try this one: The trick to using the
same words is to make sure they actually fit what is written.  You
should try it sometime, if only for the novelty of the experience.


For most adults, this isn't hard to understand.
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I agree, but you seem to have problems with it.


Aping JTEM doesn't help your case.

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5 Mar 25 * Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.111MarkE
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8 Mar 25 iii `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.5RonO
9 Mar 25 iii  `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.4MarkE
9 Mar 25 iii   `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.3RonO
10 Mar 25 iii    `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.2MarkE
10 Mar 25 iii     `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1RonO
13 Mar 25 ii`- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1Mark Isaak
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6 Mar 25 `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.96MarkE
6 Mar 25  +* Re: Observe the trend4Martin Harran
6 Mar 25  i+* Re: Observe the trend2MarkE
6 Mar 25  ii`- Re: Observe the trend1Martin Harran
7 Mar 25  i`- Re: Observe the trend1jillery
7 Mar 25  +* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.89Ernest Major
8 Mar 25  i`* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.88MarkE
8 Mar 25  i +* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.68jillery
9 Mar 25  i i`* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.67MarkE
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10 Mar 25  i i i `* Re: Observe the trend61Martin Harran
10 Mar 25  i i i  `* Re: Observe the trend60MarkE
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11 Mar 25  i i i    `* Re: Observe the trend57MarkE
11 Mar 25  i i i     `* Re: Observe the trend56Martin Harran
11 Mar 25  i i i      `* Re: Observe the trend55MarkE
12 Mar 25  i i i       `* Re: Observe the trend54Martin Harran
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13 Mar 25  i i i        i+* Re: Observe the trend50Martin Harran
13 Mar 25  i i i        ii`* Re: Observe the trend49MarkE
14 Mar 25  i i i        ii `* Re: Observe the trend48Martin Harran
14 Mar 25  i i i        ii  `* Re: Observe the trend47MarkE
14 Mar 25  i i i        ii   +* Re: Observe the trend42Bob Casanova
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15 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii   `- Re: Observe the trend1LDagget
15 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i+* Re: Observe the trend23jillery
15 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii`* Re: Observe the trend22Bob Casanova
16 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii `* Re: Observe the trend21jillery
16 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii  `* Re: Observe the trend20Bob Casanova
17 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii   `* Re: Observe the trend19jillery
17 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    +* Re: Observe the trend16Bob Casanova
17 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i+* Re: Observe the trend8Martin Harran
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii`* Re: Observe the trend7Bob Casanova
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii `* Re: Observe the trend6Martin Harran
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii  `* Re: Observe the trend5Bob Casanova
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii   `* Re: Observe the trend4Martin Harran
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii    `* Re: Observe the trend3Bob Casanova
19 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    ii     `* Re: Observe the trend2Martin Harran
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19 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i`* Re: Observe the trend7jillery
20 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i `* Re: Observe the trend6Bob Casanova
20 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i  `* Re: Observe the trend5jillery
21 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i   `* Re: Observe the trend4Bob Casanova
21 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i    `* Re: Observe the trend3jillery
21 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i     `* Re: Observe the trend2Bob Casanova
22 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    i      `- Re: Observe the trend1jillery
18 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii    `* Re: Observe the trend2Bob Casanova
19 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii     `- Re: Observe the trend1jillery
15 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i+* Re: Observe the trend2Ernest Major
15 Mar 25  i i i        ii   ii`- Re: Observe the trend1Bob Casanova
24 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i`* Re: Observe the trend8Mark Isaak
24 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i +- Re: Observe the trend1Kestrel Clayton
24 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i `* Re: Observe the trend6Bob Casanova
25 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i  +* Re: Observe the trend3jillery
25 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i  i`* Re: Observe the trend2Bob Casanova
25 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i  i `- Re: Observe the trend1jillery
25 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i  `* Re: Observe the trend2Mark Isaak
25 Mar 25  i i i        ii   i   `- Re: Observe the trend1Ernest Major
14 Mar 25  i i i        ii   `* Re: Observe the trend4Martin Harran
15 Mar 25  i i i        ii    `* Re: Observe the trend3MarkE
16 Mar 25  i i i        ii     `* Re: Observe the trend2Martin Harran
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10 Mar 25  i i  `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.2MarkE
12 Mar 25  i i   `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1jillery
10 Mar 25  i +- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1LDagget
10 Mar 25  i +* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.11LDagget
11 Mar 25  i i`* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.10MarkE
11 Mar 25  i i `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.9LDagget
11 Mar 25  i i  `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.8MarkE
12 Mar 25  i i   `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.7LDagget
12 Mar 25  i i    `* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.6MarkE
12 Mar 25  i i     +- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1Athel Cornish-Bowden
12 Mar 25  i i     +* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.3LDagget
13 Mar 25  i i     i`* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.2MarkE
13 Mar 25  i i     i `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1jillery
17 Mar 25  i i     `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1Mark Isaak
11 Mar 25  i +* Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.6Ernest Major
13 Mar 25  i `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1Mark Isaak
10 Mar 25  +- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1LDagget
13 Mar 25  `- Re: Observe the trend. It’s happening. Give it time.1Mark Isaak

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