Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA

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Sujet : Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA
De : me (at) *nospam* yahoo.com (Athel Cornish-Bowden)
Groupes : talk.origins
Date : 01. Apr 2025, 14:18:55
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On 2025-04-01 11:38:55 +0000, Ernest Major said:

On 01/04/2025 10:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
On 2025-04-01 00:51:34 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
 
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:34:39 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>:
 
On 2025-03-31 11:38 a.m., Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
On 2025-03-31 16:19:18 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
 
On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:04:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
 
On 3/30/25 7:00 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
 The last day of March is the Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to
improve awareness of transgender people, to draw attention to the
challenges and oppression we face, and help people understand us
better.
The TDoV is more important than ever in 2025, as the Trump
Administration has put us squarely in its target sights.
 One of the ways I can fight for my existence, and that of several of my
friends and loved ones, is by being visible as myself, answering
questions, and demystifying trans people.
 I am a transgender woman. I am visible. Ask me anything.
 
Intending no disrespect, I'm sympathetic to anyone with gender
dysphoria.  It's probably a conclusion that you and others have reached
only after some serious introspection.  That's your business, not mine,
and doesn't disturb me in the slightest.  I do object to biological
males competing in women's sports, and I think it's a very bad idea for
minors to do anything irrevocable before their brains are at least
soft-boiled.
 
Agreed. All.
 Agreed. All.
 
Sort of agreed, but re: sports, how exactly do you define 'biological
male' and how would you plan to enforce it? And yes, it is a bad idea
for minors to do anything irrevocable. The cases I know of are in late
adolescence with a long history of really knowing what they want and
decisions made by doctor/parent in cases of infants with ambiguous or
damaged genitalia. I'm okay with the first but dead against the second.
 
The issue is regarding the difference between biological
males (generally XY) and biological females (generally XX)
in upper-body strength after puberty; if it weren't a
problem such athletes as "Lia" Thomas wouldn't go from
underperforming in men's sports to record breakers in female
sports, and the records would be comparable between males
and females. But they aren't. Titlele IX was passed for a
reason. If you have no interest in fair competition, fine,
but at least recognize that there *is* a difference.
 "Lia" Thomas isn't the worst example. I find it appalling that the International Olympic Committee found it perfectly OK to have a man beating up a woman as a legitimate spectator sport.
 
 Have you been deceived by the misinformation spread about Imane Khelif?
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imane_Khelif
No, but maybe you have.
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly in England until 1987.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 Mar 25 * OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA47Kestrel Clayton
31 Mar 25 +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA12jillery
31 Mar 25 i`* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA11Kestrel Clayton
1 Apr 25 i +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA5Bob Casanova
1 Apr 25 i i`* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA4jillery
1 Apr 25 i i `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA3Bob Casanova
2 Apr 25 i i  `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2jillery
2 Apr 25 i i   `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Bob Casanova
1 Apr 25 i +- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1jillery
1 Apr 25 i +- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Martin Harran
2 Apr 25 i `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA3jillery
2 Apr 25 i  `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2Bob Casanova
3 Apr 25 i   `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1jillery
31 Mar 25 +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA33erik simpson
31 Mar 25 i+- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1JTEM
31 Mar 25 i`* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA31Bob Casanova
31 Mar 25 i `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA30Athel Cornish-Bowden
31 Mar 25 i  `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA29DB Cates
1 Apr 25 i   +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA11Bob Casanova
1 Apr 25 i   i+* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA6jillery
1 Apr 25 i   ii`* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA5Bob Casanova
2 Apr 25 i   ii `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA4jillery
2 Apr 25 i   ii  `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA3Bob Casanova
3 Apr 25 i   ii   `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2jillery
3 Apr 25 i   ii    `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Bob Casanova
1 Apr 25 i   i`* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA4Athel Cornish-Bowden
1 Apr 25 i   i +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2Ernest Major
1 Apr 25 i   i i`- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Athel Cornish-Bowden
1 Apr 25 i   i `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Bob Casanova
8 Apr 25 i   `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA17LDagget
8 Apr 25 i    +- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1jillery
8 Apr 25 i    `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA15erik simpson
8 Apr 25 i     +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2DB Cates
9 Apr 25 i     i`- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1JTEM
9 Apr 25 i     `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA12jillery
9 Apr 25 i      `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA11JTEM
9 Apr 25 i       +* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2LDagget
9 Apr 25 i       i`- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1JTEM
10 Apr 25 i       `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA8jillery
11 Apr 25 i        `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA7JTEM
11 Apr 25 i         `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA6jillery
11 Apr 25 i          `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA5JTEM
13 Apr 25 i           `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA4jillery
13 Apr 25 i            `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA3JTEM
14 Apr 25 i             `* Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA2jillery
14 Apr 25 i              `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1JTEM
1 Apr 25 `- Re: OT: Trans Day of Visibility 2025 AMA1Martin Harran

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