Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk

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Date : 21. May 2025, 03:30:13
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On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:55:38 -0700, John Harshman
<john.harshman@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/19/25 6:48 PM, IDentity wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:02:15 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
https://evolutionnews.org/
 
"Nothing in biology has a purpose."
>
"Nothing in biology makes sense."
        -- Theodosius Dobzhansky

His wikipedia page says:

"Theodosius Dobzhansky believed that God and science can be reconciled
through the idea that the Creator brought about his plan through the
processes of evolution. He described his beliefs as "Evolution is
God's, or Nature's, method of Creation.""

I basically agree, though there are different opinions and
interpretations of how evolution actually works. I don't agree with
the standard random mutations model.

Evolution as such has been a concept for thousands of years in e.g.
Indian philosophy, but that is a spiritually guided evolution where
several different levels of biological intelligence is running the
game. Something that has been verified by recent biological research
btw. There is a revolution going on in this field right now.

As for my quote it can se I didn't cite it as written, but from
memory, but it's still consistent with what he says.

In my view everything in physical reality is created with a purpose,
as that is always what Mind (God) does (unless we have absolute
determinism where God is just an algorithm running the game).

He also says:

 "In biology there are only causes.”

I don't know what he means with "only causes", it doesn't make sense
to me.  In a causal perspective I see God/Mind as the original
non-physical cause in existence, and everything physical is just an
effect, of this cause.

https://evolutionnews.org/2025/05/harari-darwin-is-the-prophet/


Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 May 25 * Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk18RonO
16 May 25 +- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1JTEM
20 May 25 `* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk16IDentity
20 May 25  +* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk7Bob Casanova
20 May 25  i+- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1jillery
20 May 25  i`* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk5RonO
20 May 25  i +- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1Bob Casanova
21 May 25  i `* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk3IDentity
21 May 25  i  +- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1jillery
21 May 25  i  `- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1RonO
20 May 25  `* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk8John Harshman
20 May 25   +* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk6Bob Casanova
20 May 25   i+* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk2John Harshman
21 May 25   ii`- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1Bob Casanova
21 May 25   i`* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk3IDentity
21 May 25   i `* Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk2RonO
22 May 25   i  `- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1RonO
21 May 25   `- Re: Denial and obfuscation switch scam junk1IDentity

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