Re: Is Belief in God Rational? A Fresh Look at the Evidence

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Date : 03. Jun 2025, 10:51:10
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:13:25 +0200, IDentity <identity@invalid.org>
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 13:03:32 +0100, David <David@invalid.invald> wrote:
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Hello.
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I'd very much welcome reader's views on this recent article:-
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https://aish.com/is-belief-in-god-rational-a-fresh-look-at-the-evidence
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//What if belief in God isn’t blind faith—but a logical conclusion drawn
from cutting-edge science and ancient wisdom?//
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"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into
an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you."
 - Werner Heisenberg, physicist
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From a conversation with the Indian guru Mirra Alfassa, (AKA "The
Mother"), many decades ago:
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Q: Mother, can physical science by its progress open to occultism?
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A: It does not call it "occultism", that's all. It is only a question
of words.... They are making sensational discoveries which people with
occult knowledge already knew thousands of years ago! They have made a
long circuit and come to the same thing.
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With the most recent discoveries in medicine, in the applied sciences,
for instance, they are contacting in this way, with a wonder-struck
interest, things which were known to certain sages a very, very long
time ago. And then they present all this before you as new marvels —
but indeed they are rather old, their marvels!
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They will end up by practising occultism without knowing that they are
doing so! For, in fact, as soon as one draws close, however slightly,
to the truth of things and when one is sincere in one's search, not
satisfied by mere appearances, when one really wants to find something
and goes deep, penetrates behind appearances, then one begins to
advance towards the truth of things; and as one comes closer to it,
well, one finds again the same knowledge that others who began by
going within have brought back from their inner discoveries.
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Only the method and the path are different but the thing discovered
will be the same, because there are not two things to be found, there
is only one. It will necessarily be the same. It all depends on the
path one follows; some go fast, others slowly, some go straight,
others, as I said, go a long way round — and what labour! How they
have laboured!... Besides, it is very respectable.


Arthur Clarke's Third Law states "Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic." This might seem to follow the spirit
of what you post above.  An important distinction is, while some
people might regard technology as magic, there is no reasonable way
magic can be regarded as technology.

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To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge


Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 Jun 25 * Is Belief in God Rational? A Fresh Look at the Evidence17David
1 Jun 25 +- Re: Is Belief in God Rational? A Fresh Look at the Evidence1erik simpson
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