Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?

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De : specimenNOSPAM (at) *nospam* curioustaxon.omy.net (Mark Isaak)
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Date : 06. Jun 2025, 01:59:18
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On 6/3/25 4:47 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:00:26 -0700, Mark Isaak
<specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote:
 
On 5/28/25 1:44 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:46:37 -0500, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-bill-ten-commandments-public-schools-rcna206851
>
Texas had bent over for the obfuscation and denial creationist switch
scam back in 2010, but had to have the bait and switch run on them again
in 2013 when they tried to use the switch scam to teach ID in their
public schools.
>
They are now trying a more direct approach that seems to be as
unconstitutional as Oklahoma's use of the Bible in public schools as a
text book, and last month Arkansas' Trumpy Governor (she claims that
Trump was chosen by Jesus) signed similar 10 commandment legislation
when I was out on the road.
>
[...]
>
America Magazine, published by the Jesuits, had an article yesterday
analysing how it is wrong for the Christian Right to be campaigning
for posting the Ten Commandments in schools.
>
I give a link to the full article below but here is the TLDR version
from their newsletter yesterday:
>
<quote>
Father Clifford, a Jesuit priest who taught for 55 years at Boston
College and is a professor emeritus of Old Testament there, notes a
consensus among biblical scholars from the Jewish, Catholic and
Protestant traditions that while the Ten Commandments lay the
foundation for Jews' and Christians' relationship with God, they are
not meant to be a universal covenant that applies to adherents of
other religions-or of no religion. Posting the Ten Commandments in the
classroom, then, is not just a violation of the First Amendment, but
also a contradiction of the Bible itself.
>
"This prohibition of graven images is so important that we require you
to make a graven image out of it."
 Where is that quotation from?
 Also, why do you think it  useful to make a comment based on a literal
readings of the Bible in response to an article written by a Catholic
priest when the Catholic Church does not take the Bible literally?
The quote is a paraphrase of any number of Southern politicians.
Your quote about "a contradiction of the Bible itself" brought it to mind.
--
Mark Isaak
"Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That
doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell

Date Sujet#  Auteur
26 May 25 * Texas given up on the switch scam?29RonO
28 May 25 `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?28Martin Harran
28 May 25  +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?16jillery
29 May 25  i`* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?15Ernest Major
29 May 25  i +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2Martin Harran
30 May 25  i i`- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1jillery
29 May 25  i +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?10LDagget
29 May 25  i i+* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2John Harshman
30 May 25  i ii`- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1jillery
30 May 25  i i`* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?7jillery
30 May 25  i i `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?6LDagget
31 May 25  i i  +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?3jillery
31 May 25  i i  i`* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2LDagget
1 Jun 25  i i  i `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1jillery
1 Jun 25  i i  `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2Ernest Major
3 Jun 25  i i   `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1jillery
30 May 25  i `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2jillery
31 May 25  i  `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1LDagget
3 Jun 25  `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?11Mark Isaak
3 Jun 25   +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?3JTEM
3 Jun 25   i`* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2LDagget
3 Jun 25   i `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1JTEM
3 Jun 25   `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?7Martin Harran
3 Jun 25    +* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?5LDagget
3 Jun 25    i+- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1Bob Casanova
3 Jun 25    i`* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?3Martin Harran
3 Jun 25    i `* Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?2LDagget
4 Jun 25    i  `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1Martin Harran
6 Jun 25    `- Re: Texas given up on the switch scam?1Mark Isaak

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