Re: What is legitimate about the ID bait and switch scam at this time?

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De : j.nobel.daggett (at) *nospam* gmail.com (LDagget)
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Date : 19. Jun 2025, 02:57:46
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 23:45:59 +0000, Ernest Major wrote:
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On the one hand if one is arguing for organised complexity being
evidence of design then the messiness of life in general and
biochemistry in particular is a problem. Life doesn't even have the
appearance of design (IMHO).
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On the other hand one could argue that the designer was constrained by
the laws of chemistry. But an omnipotent and omniscient designer isn't
so constrained, so the intelligent design advocate has a problem. They
can resort to "mysterious ways" (the intelligent designer's reasons are
beyond our understanding), or assert that the intelligent design can do
anything it wants.
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On the gripping hand, this is why intelligent design is not science. By
refusing to place constraints on the designer intelligent design can
explain (explain away) anything, and therefore is not subject to
empirical verification/disconfirmation.
My own theology has no conflict with this designer, but rarely talks
about it. Then again, you may not have heard or read about us, for
reasons that are fairly simple to grasp one you learn our name. One
of our nice features is that our liturgy reflects our scriptural
tradition which is, shall we say, sparse. This has obviated the need
to gather for formal worship. Join the Church of the Ineffable.
Our members are sometimes seen in silent awe visiting and witnessing
places of natural beauty.

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