Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won

On 6/28/2026 8:42 AM, Martin Harran wrote:

If you are going to continue to insist that heliocentrism was
condemned, then you need to explain how come Cardinal Bellarmine
issued Galileo with a certificate stating that he wasn't banned from
pursuing heliocentrism; how come the Inquisition didn't ban
'Revolutions' outright as it did with Foscarini's book; how come the
Pope told Galileo that "the entire Congregation of the Holy Office
knew about his unjust persecutions*, and added the unusual remark that
so long as he, Paul V, lived, Galileo remained secure"; how come
Paul's successor, Pope Urban regularly debated heliocentrism with
Galileo and authorised him to write a book laying out the arguments
for and against it.

When you had to face that you had lied about running from your source
coming up short you tried to quote mine the Papal condemnation

 
Pity you can't identify any such Papal condemnation.

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2 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		RonO
2 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	5		ShyDavid
2 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		Kerr-Mudd, John
4 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	3		MarkE
4 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	2		RonO
4 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		ShyDavid
4 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	51		Martin Harran
4 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	29		Ernest Major
5 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	28		Martin Harran
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	22		John Harshman
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	21		Martin Harran
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	20		John Harshman
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	3		Ernest Major
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		John Harshman
7 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Martin Harran
6 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Ernest Major
7 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	15		Martin Harran
8 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	14		John Harshman
8 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	13		Martin Harran
8 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	12		John Harshman
9 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	11		Martin Harran
9 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	10		John Harshman
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10 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	7		John Harshman
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10 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		John Harshman
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13 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		RonO
13 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	2		Martin Harran
13 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		John Harshman
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10 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Kerr-Mudd, John
12 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Mark Isaak
13 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Martin Harran
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16 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		ShyDavid
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18 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	14		sticks
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25 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	4		Mark Isaak
25 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	3		sticks
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27 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Mark Isaak
20 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Martin Harran
18 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	1		Mark Isaak
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2 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		RonO
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4 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	404		MarkE
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12 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	266		RonO
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13 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	264		RonO
13 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	263		MarkE
14 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	262		RonO
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15 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	259		Martin Harran
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13 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	42		Martin Harran
15 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	28		sticks
10 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		ShyDavid
10 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	11		Kerr-Mudd, John
10 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	3		ShyDavid
9 Apr 26	Re: The Debate Has Been Settled - Creationism Has Won	2		Martin Harran
8 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		ShyDavid
8 Apr 26	Re: gods (was april fool: Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		ShyDavid
6 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	25		Mark Isaak
6 Apr 26	Re: Effective Tomorrow, We Will Be Archiving the newsgroup. The Debate Has Been Settled — Creationism Has Won	1		RonO

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