Re: The climate crisis grows exponentially.

"R Kym Horsell" <kymhorsell@gmail.com> wrote in message news:veretb$agr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com...

In alt.global-warming Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

"Paul /D\" <paul.aubrin@invalid.org> wrote in message
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Le 15/10/2024 ?? 20:28, R Kym Horsell a ??crit :

You can't "prove" anything to a nitwit. In this case a
disingenuous nitwit.

You have to prove what you allegate, even if some of your contradictors
won't be convinced.
Scout's argument was : "Because you've already admitted that "warm period"
occur naturally so how can you establish this isn't natural? "
So : what makes you so sure that, though previous climate fluctuations
were "natural", the modern one is not.

Bingo.

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Translation:The earth looks flat. I think it is flat. That's
what my daddy told me. So it must BE flat.  Anyway I've been
asleep since 1950. Yadda yadda yadda.

No, it means that if something has happened before naturally, then you have to show it happening again is somehow unnatural.
Though I can understand your unwillingness (or inability) to understand that concept. After all, I bet you probably think the sun sets because someone somewhere flipped a switch. After all, it couldn't have been natural.

In the past changes in atm GHG have slowly changed climate over 1000s
of millions of years.

Did it? Can you provide the daily weather for something that happened millions of years ago.. However, since you brought the subject up.. what is the minimum time interval between different samples that can be established for climate events hundreds of thousands and millions of years in the past.
Then for that sample.. is it an  instantaneous value or an average over a period of time and what period of time would it be the average of?

Exactly the same thing has been done by burning fossil fuels for
the past 170+ years and raising atm CO2 by 50% over pre 1850 levels.

Yep, but how much of that is from fossil fuels?
After all, the number you cite also includes land use.. such as farming... or are you suggesting we put you on a starvation diet to reduce CO2 levels?
Further as far as I can see the ASSUMPTION is that man's activities is the cause of all CO2 increase, but is that actually true? After all, something changed the global temperatures in the past when you couldn't blame man for. So what were the causes and amounts then and how much of that accounts for any changes today.
Which of course, depends on the accuracy and resolution of the data samples I asked you about above.